Why All the Complaining? I'll Tell you Why!

[evilmonkey1216]

To me the only problem is it takes 2 minutes to find a game and I can hardly play in a party. The spawn system isn't the best so I expect some patches. Zombies also got a way lot harder and it's hard 2 find good people like today I was playing with this little British kid and he absolutely sucked. To survive round 3 he died and I had only my pistol knife and grenades. I quickly ran out of ammo and I was being chased by 30 zombies I threw grenades and killed a few and I got a nuke. I hate little kids! :lol:

[Commander034]

sorry for my spelling guys, and to address the sniper issue..... i hate snipers so F.U. snipers you get what you get hahaahaha

Don't complain about lag, that's microsoft's job. Why do you hate people who use crappy guns that are only effective at long range?

[MONSTRO]

hey you gotta hate some one so i choose the snipers, but seriously im a run and gun type guy i use light wieght and marathon so im always out thier i dont like camping i get up close and personal and when you have 4 out of 6 six people on the opposing team sniping it takes the fun out of it

[Commander034]

hey you gotta hate some one so i choose the snipers, but seriously im a run and gun type guy i use light wieght and marathon so im always out thier i dont like camping i get up close and personal and when you have 4 out of 6 six people on the opposing team sniping it takes the fun out of it

You don't have to hate anyone. If you are run & gun, then out run their scopes and take paths that can't easily be sniped into.

[Phantom]

Can we please not argue about sniping, people will have their opinions, and others will have theirs. Lets just agree to disagree, as to the original topic, people are going to dislike things about a game, just let them. Criticism is good for a game, how else are they going to know what to fix? And as I said before, this is A GAME, it's primary purpose is fun, making everything incredibly difficult isn't going to appeal to everyone.

[SHORTZ]

I totally agree. its stupid to be complaining so soon. its been out for what? exactly a week? It is weird, it is harder to play, it does require more skill to play, it does take some getting used to. my first reaction when playing was that everything seems heavier and more sluggish. But overall it is so much better than modern warfare. Im loving the fact that i actually have to think about what im doing to do well. The maps are really well set out in my opinion. i think everyone should give the game some time before complaining

[Jackyboy1384]

Before I type anything, just know that I feel like **** today and am in a pretty bad mood (for me, anyway).

The one thing I really can't stand is all the stupid IW fanboys out there who bought Black Ops, and played for, what, like 2 minutes before going back to MW2! They are out to criticise Treyarch and Black Ops.

They get noob tubed once:

"THIS GAME SUCKS!"

They get RC'd once:

"THIS GAME SUCKS!"

The game laggs slightly:

"THIS GAME SUCKS!"

Get what I'm saying? They'd never do that to precious MW2.

Well bollocks to those people. They can go and be a loner on MW2 while everyone else is actually being FAIR and giving Black Ops a chance. Obviously, every game will have a few faults when it comes out, Black Ops is no exception. I have hit detection issues every now and then and the spawning still needs a little bit of tweaking, but it is overall a great game to me so far.

Plus, it's been almost a week and no one has found a glitch in a map yet! I bet they'd found some in MW2, didn't they? That's because Treyarch spend their time working hard instead of making charts on Microsoft Excel showing approximately how much money they will make, and planning how they'll scam us next. Not singling anyone out there.

With sniping, well, I've personally always been one of those run-and-gun type players. But I've tried sniping many a time and it's harder than it looks. I respect all those snipers who play fairly and have true SKILL. It's not like MW2, where you just get out your Barrett and spray, or try to do like a 360 degree no-scope, lowering your ratio and your team's chance of winning, just so that if you do get a kill you can spend the rest of the match screaming: "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" down the headset. Quickscoping has always bugged me, because it doesn't seem like it enhances the game any further. It takes huge skill to be a good quickscoper (unless you still play Modern Warfail 2), but it's still going to lower your ratio in the long run.

And zombies, man, they've made it so much more difficult. I'm loving it. So far, I like "Five" more than Kino der Toten, but that's probably because "Five" is more likely to have players who are actually good strategists (most of them completed the campaign, didn't they?) whereas I haven't found a single match on Kino der Toten yet without some stupid kid looking for glitches or hogging all the windows. Seriously, it's gotten to the point where I just LEAVE if someone window steals. And the extra sub-objectives in the maps are great, it really gives you something to work towards instead of "Kill the zombies and run away to reload.".

Bored of all that reading? Don't blame you. But seriously, to any IW fanboys reading this (which is highly unlikely, seeing as this site was made out of dedication to WaW), you've really proven just how pathetic you are by treating the game like this about 5 days post-release. With millions of people playing, of course lagg is going to be a problem. Nothing to rage quit over, though.

[gordogg24p]

You shouldn't be able to quick-scope a sniper rifle. I don't care if that leaves you vulnerable at close range. You make trade-offs when you pick your guns. The trade-off for a sniper is although it does a ton of damage, it isn't good for close range. That's why you have a sidearm.

[Commander034]

You shouldn't be able to quick-scope a sniper rifle. I don't care if that leaves you vulnerable at close range. You make trade-offs when you pick your guns. The trade-off for a sniper is although it does a ton of damage, it isn't good for close range. That's why you have a sidearm.

The problem with this way of thought is that assault rifles suffer no problems. The sniper needs a chance to survive at close range if an assault rifle can be used for sniping. For the sidearm argument look at my earlier posts.

[skimborder]

They Complain about not being able to use Cheap Tactics like Quick Scoping and Noob Tubes, and that

Black Ops is Actually a Well Balanced Game.

quick scoping a cheap tactic??? no way. that stuff took skill and practice. any one who says it doesnt is just mad that they cant do it. By calling something that somepeople considered their number one favorite thing to do in CoD noobish, or cheap, your just being a noob. QSing is a way of CoD for some, and there was no need to take it out. and by taking it out they have completely ruined the snipeing in BO. no body sits in a corner aiming down their scope forever waiting for someone to run by, but now due to the fact you have to wait 2seconds before your shot is even remotely accurate, you have to just constantly aim down your sights.

[Alsomdude2]

You shouldn't be able to quick-scope a sniper rifle. I don't care if that leaves you vulnerable at close range. You make trade-offs when you pick your guns. The trade-off for a sniper is although it does a ton of damage, it isn't good for close range. That's why you have a sidearm.

The problem with this way of thought is that assault rifles suffer no problems. The sniper needs a chance to survive at close range if an assault rifle can be used for sniping. For the sidearm argument look at my earlier posts.

STOP arguing with everyone that hates quick scoping. Go try and quick scope in real life your not gonna hit s*it. And it is a noob tactic because anyone that does it knows they are gonna die if they don't do it. That is why you have a pistol and that is why the pistol is the fastest side arm to pull out. Sniping in CoD is so unrealistic but idc they don't have maps big enough to make sniping good. What I'm trying to say is use your pistol to kill someone that is near you that is what they are for.

[Commander034]

STOP arguing with everyone that hates quick scoping. Go try and quick scope in real life your not gonna hit s*it.

Oh wow, I had no idea! Why not make COD 100% realistic. You now have to aim slightly above the target, bullet spin, wind, and gravity can screw up your shots, your gun's can now randomly jam and then take an hour to unjam, and when you're killed you don't respawn, ever. That's right you die in one match you don't ever get to play again.

And it is a noob tactic because anyone that does it knows they are gonna die if they don't do it. That is why you have a pistol and that is why the pistol is the fastest side arm to pull out. Sniping in CoD is so unrealistic but idc they don't have maps big enough to make sniping good. What I'm trying to say is use your pistol to kill someone that is near you that is what they are for.

You won't always get that pistol out in time like I said earlier and you may not be able to dodge his gun. Why should I stop arguing, I'm trying to prove a point and if I stop that point won't get across. Normal snipers have also complained about the method to stop quickscoping because it forces them to be constantly scoped when most look far out unscoped for a little bit of movement and then shoot.

[Phantom]

I'm sorry but I'm reporting this topic, I hope it gets locked, all this was was a flame war waiting to happen, and it did, I said stop arguing, it ensued, so I'm reporting this now.

[Commander034]

I'm sorry but I'm reporting this topic, I hope it gets locked, all this was was a flame war waiting to happen, and it did, I said stop arguing, it ensued, so I'm reporting this now.

It's called debate. There is nothing wrong with the discussion of ideas. The only flaming I've seen is from my opponents and I am not bothered by it.

[FieldMarshall]

What I think people don't realise is this, Treyarch put so much into the game that its almost certain there will be some initial problems. I mean like, right now what are the main issues?

-Spawns

-Ninja

-Care package glitch (which i wont lie i have used)

-Snipers nerfed to the maximum

Compare that to MW2

-Horrible Maps

-Commando

-Deathstreaks

-Overpowered killstreaks

-Javelin glitch

-1887's being insaaaaane

-Stealth bomber glitch

-Care package glitch

-One Man Army

-Danger Close

-M203 ridiculousness

-Host migration

-Robert Bowling never listening to the community

I'm stopping the list now, or I'll be here for weeks.

People need to realise that this game isn't piss easy like MW2, it takes some skill.

When im bored inbetween rounds I like to check out everyone's KD, normally in a lobby of 12 around 3 will be positive, because this game is challenging, and you can't expect to be like...god of cod straight away...if you're doing badly, don't sit there and bitch about it saying the game is bad, man up and have another crack at it.

[Phantom]

Go try and quick scope in real life your not gonna hit s*it. And it is a noob tactic because anyone that does it knows they are gonna die if they don't do it.

any one who says it doesnt is just mad that they cant do it. By calling something that somepeople considered their number one favorite thing to do in CoD noobish, or cheap, your just being a noob.

Well bollocks to those people. They can go and be a loner on MW2 while everyone else is actually being FAIR and giving Black Ops a chance.

But seriously, to any IW fanboys reading this (which is highly unlikely, seeing as this site was made out of dedication to WaW), you've really proven just how pathetic you are by treating the game like this about 5 days post-release.

and to address the sniper issue..... i hate snipers so F.U. snipers you get what you get hahaahaha

hey you gotta hate some one so i choose the snipers

Im sick of these forums getting spamed with pointless threads about what they hate or even "what i love and hate about black ops". People only hate this game because they SUCK this game takes skill unlike mw2.

Did I say that it should be locked because of YOU Commander? No, it's other people, I didn't get any of those quotes by you btw.

[RuskieMoneyMan]

What I think people don't realise is this, Treyarch put so much into the game that its almost certain there will be some initial problems. I mean like, right now what are the main issues?

-Spawns

-Ninja

-Care package glitch (which i wont lie i have used)

-Snipers nerfed to the maximum

Compare that to MW2

-Horrible Maps

-Commando

-Deathstreaks

-Overpowered killstreaks

-Javelin glitch

-1887's being insaaaaane

-Stealth bomber glitch

-Care package glitch

-One Man Army

-Danger Close

-M203 ridiculousness

-Host migration

-Robert Bowling never listening to the community

I'm stopping the list now, or I'll be here for weeks.

People need to realise that this game isn't piss easy like MW2, it takes some skill.

When im bored inbetween rounds I like to check out everyone's KD, normally in a lobby of 12 around 3 will be positive, because this game is challenging, and you can't expect to be like...god of cod straight away...if you're doing badly, don't sit there and bitch about it saying the game is bad, man up and have another crack at it.

The game has been out for a week and u think we found all the fualts in black ops? i doubt we have found half. most people are only level 30 and have only unlocked half the guns and maybe 10% of attatchments. Those glitches from MW2 took about 6 months to find.

[gordogg24p]

The problem with this way of thought is that assault rifles suffer no problems.

Not as high a rate of fire as an SMG but lower damage than a sniper rifle. If that isn't how it was setup in Black Ops, then assault rifles need fixing, not snipers.

[RuskieMoneyMan]

STOP arguing with everyone that hates quick scoping. Go try and quick scope in real life your not gonna hit s*it.

Oh wow, I had no idea! Why not make COD 100% realistic. You now have to aim slightly above the target, bullet spin, wind, and gravity can screw up your shots, your gun's can now randomly jam and then take an hour to unjam, and when you're killed you don't respawn, ever. That's right you die in one match you don't ever get to play again.

And it is a noob tactic because anyone that does it knows they are gonna die if they don't do it. That is why you have a pistol and that is why the pistol is the fastest side arm to pull out. Sniping in CoD is so unrealistic but idc they don't have maps big enough to make sniping good. What I'm trying to say is use your pistol to kill someone that is near you that is what they are for.

You won't always get that pistol out in time like I said earlier and you may not be able to dodge his gun. Why should I stop arguing, I'm trying to prove a point and if I stop that point won't get across. Normal snipers have also complained about the method to stop quickscoping because it forces them to be constantly scoped when most look far out unscoped for a little bit of movement and then shoot.

The pistol takes like half a second to pull out. and with that one perk... scout pro i think its ridulas. u can pick up an smg and stil pull put faster then it takes to throw nova gas.

[Jackyboy1384]

Feel a bit better now... little embarrassed by the things I posted :oops:

Look, let's just stop the flaming for a minute and realise that we are arguing over things that DON'T really matter. Who CARES how other people play the game? We're all entitled to our own opinion about which way is best, so why are we arguing about it? We might as well be having a flame war about bananas and apples :evil: .

And @ Triixster, I see you quoted my post, noting that I, along with others, was flaming. I wasn't. I was giving my OPINION. And to be brutally honest I was in a bad mood yesterday (blame the Flu...).

If you or anyone else are going to post back saying that I was flaming or that I'm a total hypocrite, feel free to do so. You guys can sit here arguing while I'm searching for easter eggs on the maps and getting overall ahead of you guys. Jackyboy out.

Arggh, that sounded even more pissy... I think I'll just stay out of this from now on. :oops: :oops:

[Phillips455]

the good thing now is that treyarch listens to the community like this and will fix the spawns in a later patch and add maps and possibly new guns :?:

anyway, ive had it for a week and im only 1st prestige, 90% in TDM so i kind of suck

the maps are balanced well but in jungle they shouldg et rid of the spot ontop off the rock, i get 10 kill streaks there if i go up there to clean out the enemys there

[zombiekilla]

i totally agree. black ops is a game for skilled players and not for those whiny 6 years olds (no offence) who think that once they get it, everyone should be bowing down to their awesomeness. to me i love this game. i don't own it but i played with my friends and i just found it great from start to finish. the campaign is kinda confusing to me but the mp is just what it should be. the weapons are fine but the only thing is that i keep finding myself using the same one because it just seems overpowered and getting me kills. (but thats just me) [brains] to you my friend. :mrgreen:

[-CrF WarMachine-]

The only issue i Have so far is the matchmaking. It is so difficult to find a good match with a full party. But I'm sure this will be fixed soon. Other than that the game is incredible. MP is great, Single player is epic, and the zombie maps are incredible, Especially "Five". I dont care for Kino that much. Its great and all but it seems too similar to WaW. Maybe that was the Map Pack 4 that we all wanted.

[Hardline Pro]

I haven't seen much complaining, okay, maybe some. :?

But the game has only been out for about one week, people are still getting used to it. Right now, I am enjoying this game and find it almost as good as CoD4. I think I'll wait a few months to make a real final opinion, but so far, Black Ops is great.

[codestuffz174]

The only time I've had to play on xbox live was last weekend, and I didn't experience most of the problems some of you guys are complaining about. The only problem I ran into was the long search time, but other than that it seemed pretty solid too me. I played long enough to get to a 42, so I think I would have experienced more of these problems. It doesn't really seem any harder than MW2. It is nice however, that I'm not getting tubed right and left.

On the topic of quick scoping think about this, if you are going to use a sniper, you have to realize it is a specialist gun. Snipers are for long range only. Saying that you should be able to quickscope to protect yourself at close range, is like someone using a shotgun saying that their shotgun should be able to shoot across the map too, because the people with snipers are killing them ,and their gun can't reach. If you want a gun to shoot long range, and be good at short range use a assault rifle.