Sacrifice theory?

[Jrrhack]

This is just a theory but has anyone ever tried getting downed after the last step but before you get the death machines?

[Default]

yup

[Cinder Soldier]

what about that one achievement sacrificial lamb, has anyone tried getting it during the steps, maybe thats why the crossbow is required

[ZeMrDark]

That achievement existed before ascension and is not map specific.

[Xieon]

what about that one achievement sacrificial lamb, has anyone tried getting it during the steps, maybe thats why the crossbow is required

The crossbow is not required, I've done it several times w/o it.

As I correctly guessed before seeing the code it has to do with the amount of damage you inflict on the black hole.

This is why those guns, and the dolls work. In theory you should be able to do it with any guns. I've seen it done with people using mustang and sally, and have done it with 2 people w/ hk21's upgraded, one raygun upgraded, and one thundergun upgraded.