The Different Zombies Universes (Plus Time and Location of Each Map)

[Tac]

Aloha guys, Tac here with a thread on the multiverse so everyone can understand it a little better. Of course, if you spot something of interest (or especially concern), drop a comment and let a discussion begin! Please note that this thread does not depict the order of the outbreaks, but the actual time we are physically playing there.

Universe 1
Nacht Der Untoten through Buried, minus Mob of the Dead

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Time and Place: In the latter half of 1945, in Germany.

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Characters: Four unknown Marines.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know it’s the right time period? Verruckt (and likely even Shi No Numa) are believed to be in 1945 based off a quote by Tank Dempsey and assuming that Nacht Der Untoten is before them, then it is also 1945.
How do we know it’s the right place? Given the Nazi Trucks, the Nazi Zombies, etc. It's safe to assume were somewhere under German control.
NOTES:
In Green Run, if you go to the cornfield between bus stops 3 and 4 you will see an exact replica of Nacht Der Untoten and actually be able to go inside of the bottom floor. Some believe that this shows the location, others believe it is just homage to the map that started it all.

Tank Dempsey "1945" quote:

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"Droppin' Zombies since 1945! Hoorah!" - kill_streak_11

 

 

Time and Place: Between September 10th and 20th, 1945, in the Wittenau Sanatorium, Pankow, Berlin, Germany.

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Characters: Four unknown Marines.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know that’s the right time period? When you start a game in Verruckt, it says that we are in the time of September, 1945. Also, the Call of the Dead radios say that a spy was captured in Verruckt on the 10th and the Marine recon team was killed on or before the 20th, so that means that sometime between those dates was when we are playing there.
How do we know that’s the right place? In the starting screen, it says the player is in the Wittenau Sanatorium, which is in Berlin, Germany. Zombies maps based off of multiplayer and single player maps are almost always in the same location. Verruckt is based off of Ring of Steel, which, like Asylum, is based in the outskirts of Berlin, Pankow to be specific.
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Start Screen Date:

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Time and Place: Between October 1, 1945, and December 31, 1945, in the Rising Sun Facility, Manchuria, China (previously Japan).

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time period? Edward Richtofen has a radio in Call of the Dead that's dated October 1, 1945, and in that radio he describes how Maxis and Samantha have yet to be teleported, meaning they were all at Der Riese still and haven't fought Zombies yet. Tank Dempsey has a quote regarding starting his killing of the undead in 1945 and Shi No Numa is the first map he kills zombies in.
How do we know this is the right place? Rising Sun Facility is named in Terminal file A00359. As for Manchuria, no one really had any thoughts as to where it was, other than "Japan". So with that, I did some digging and came up with some interesting clues, which are in the notes below.
NOTES:
Please read Tac's thread over Manchuria for a better understanding.

October 1, 1945 radio:

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 Dr. Richtofen:

Log Entry 1475

Date: October 1st, nineteen hundred forty five.

 

Deeeear diary,

As for the control group tests, they have been put on hold. Recently I discovered that Dr. Maxis has not been mass producing the DG-2 as he swore he would. If he won't move those plans forward, then I won't continue following his dream of an undead army! He doesn't deserve his perch of power. He doesnt know what to do with it! I know just what to do with him, but I'll take care of that little brat when I get the chance to.

Tank Dempsey "1945" quote:

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"Droppin' Zombies since 1945! Hoorah!" - kill_streak_11

Terminal File A00359:

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***TOP SECRET***

***LEVEL 1 CLEARANCE ONLY***

***DER RIESE *SERVANT* SAMPLE A00359***

 

What follows is the chronological primary sample from the Der Riese project “Datenbedjensteter” (translated: DATA SERVANT). Sample was acquired from CIA asset based out of Vozrozhdeniya in the Soviet Union and is translated from its original German Below:

 

***SERVANT ENTRY A00359***

 

“Ray Gun summary:

“Prototype developed by

“Doctor Ludvig Maxis,

“origin Der Riese facility

“Based on designs seized from

“Rising Sun facility at SNN.

“Powered by Element 115

“Ray Gun works on microwave technology

“And discharges a burst of green

“Plasma energy between 220 and 230V.

“Second generation currently under

“Development by H. Porter

“To reduce excessive peripheral

“Damage.

 

***END FILE***

 

 

Time and Place: After October 1, 1945 in Lower Silesia near Breslau, Germany.

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know it’s the right time period? According to the radio in Call of The Dead, Der Riese was still managed by Group 935 during October 1, 1945, so it is sometime after this date.
How do we know that’s the right place? In the Terminal, under file name Giant1, it states that Der Riese is in Lower Silesia. On the starting screen of the map, it states that the player is "near Breslau" of Germany.
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Call of the Dead radio:

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Dr. Richtofen:

Log Entry 1475

Date: October 1st, nineteen hundred forty five.

 

Deeeear diary,

As for the control group tests, they have been put on hold. Recently I discovered that Dr. Maxis has not been mass producing the DG-2 as he swore he would. If he won't move those plans forward, then I won't continue following his dream of an undead army! He doesn't deserve his perch of power. He doesnt know what to do with it! I know just what to do with him, but I'll take care of that little brat when I get the chance to.

Terminal File Giant1.txt:

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Giant1.txt

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***LEVEL 1 CLEARANCE EYES ONLY***

***DER RIESE RECORDING #1***

 

SUMMARY:

The following is a transcript of the first in a series of recordings that originated from the Der Riese test facility in Lower Silesia.

 

 

Time and Place: Late 1968 or Early 1969 in West Berlin, Germany.

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know it’s the time period? The Fernsehturm was completed in October of 1969, and in the view you do have out of the back alley, it looks like it's almost complete but not fully, so it must have been before that date, however it was nearing.
How do we know it’s the right place? The structure visible from Kino der Toten is the Fernsehterm, located in East Germany. If you no-clip past the fence when looking at the Fernsehturm, you can see the Berlin Wall, and you can clearly see that the Fernsehturm is on the opposite side of the wall as you, meaning you are in West Berlin.
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Fernsehturm and Berlin Wall:

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Time and Place: Between October 16th and November 22nd, 1963, at 3:00 PM in the Pentagon, Washington D.C., United States.

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CHARACTERS: John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Fidel Castro, and Robert McNamara.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know it’s the right time period? In the War Room, there's an SR-71 Blackbird Chart for pilots, and there is a date on the board that reads 11/19/63, yet has no data. The most recent date with data is 10/16/63, so that's the minimum date since President John F. Kennedy died on November 22nd, 1963. In Ascension, there are telephones in allowing you to hear the characters from FIVE, implying the maps occur at the same time. In the FIVE cutscene, there's a clock on the wall that says 12:00 in Moscow, Russia. In Ascension (believed to be at Baikonur Cosmodrome), you can see a clock reading 12:00. The Baikonur Cosmodrome is in the same time zone as Moscow. Using a simple world clock, FIVE would have to be either 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM. Ascension is during the dark, which would correlate with the clock showing 12:00, in this case being midnight, meaning that FIVE takes place at 3:00 PM.
How do we know it’s the right place? They state they are in the Pentagon.
NOTES:
In the opening scene of FIVE, John F. Kennedy mistakes the intrusion of Zombies for a storm, obviously meaning there was a storm on the day of the outbreak. MurderMachineX points out that there was a three-day storm on the 6th, 7th, and 8th of November that "not only had strong winds but it had rain as well" so it's very possible FIVE occurs during the epicenter of the storm, November 7th, 1963.  Please read MurderMachineX's thread over FIVE for a better understanding.

SR-71 Blackbird Chart:

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Five cutscene wall clock:

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Time and Place: Between October 16th and November 22nd, 1963, at 12:00 AM (during FIVE), at the Baikonur Cosmodrome, USSR.

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know it's the right time period? It is believed that because of the telephones in Ascension allowing you to hear the characters from FIVE, the maps occur at the same time. Ascension is during the dark, which would correlate with the clock showing 12:00, in this case being midnight.
How do we know it's the right place? Not only does the outside of Ascension look nearly identical to its campaign counterpart, Executive Order, one of the objectives of the map is to kill scientists that are part of the Ascension Group, some of them being old nazi's from the Wunderwaffe program. When approaching the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Executive Order, you will notice that Mason has a "115" tattoo on his arm for that mission only, referencing Element 115. Before the release of Ascension, GKNOVA6 was updated to include a modified, primate version of the Vitruvian Man. If you look behind the drawing, you will see the blueprints for Sputnik 2, which launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in 1957. On top of that, the rocket in Ascension appears to be a modified R7A-Semyorka ICBM, which launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in the 1960's.
NOTES:

Mason's "115" tattoo:

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GKNOVA6 Modified Vitruvian Man compared to Sputnik 2 blueprints:

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Time and Place: March 17th, presumably 2011, in Siberia, Russia.

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Characters: Sarah Michelle Gellar, Michael Rooker, Danny Trejo, and Robert Englund.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know it's the right time period? During the cutscene, you see the clapperboard and what looks like 3/17. It's incredibly unlikely for them to have used a month/year setup, meaning a month/day style was the most likely which would make the date March 17th. Edward Richtofen says that the players have time-traveled and given the fact we playbas Sarah Michelle Gellar, Danny Trejo, Robert Englund, and Michael Rooker, 2011 seems like the most likely year.
How do we know it's the right place? The description of the map says you are in Siberia.
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Clapperboard:

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Time and Place: Between the general year range of 2000 and present day in Shangri-La.

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? [HIGHLY DEBATED] The handheld radios look to be rather modern, possibly somewhere around the year 2000 range, so that is another indicator.
How do we know it's the right place? The name of the map is Shangri-La.
NOTES:
None at this time.

 

Time and Place: [HIGHLY DEBATED] Between July 1966 and June 1967 (During Nuketown) on the Moon.

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, Dr. Edward Richtofen, and Samantha Maxis.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? At the end of Round 25 in Nuketown Zombies, you can see the Zombies eye color change from orange to blue, signifying the change from Samantha Maxis to Edward Richtofen in the MPD is happening simultaneously. Also, one dial on electric boxes outside of each house are transmitting Richtofen's voice from Moon during the Big Bang Easter Egg. In No Man's Land, there is a banner for Detachment 1 of the 1129th Division Special Activities Squadron, active from 1962-1968. They had a ceremony in 1966 congratulating their 500th flight, so the banner may have been put up then.
How do we know it's the right place? The name of the map is Moon.
NOTES:
Please read Shooter's thread over No Man's Land for a better understanding.

 

 

Time and Place: [HIGHLY DEBATED] Between July 1966 and June 1967 (During Moon) at the Nevada Testing Facility, Nevada, U.S.A.

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Time and Place: [HIGHLY DEBATED] Between July 1966 and June 1967 (During Moon) at the Nevada Testing Facility, Nevada, U.S.A.
Characters: Center of Disease Control (CDC) and Central Intelligence Administration (CIA) Agents.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time?  Nuketown has been described as a 60's neighborhood in Nevada (per the loading screen).  Upon starting a game of Nuketown, we see a mushroom cloud hundreds of feet in the air and the crossroads of Trinity Ave. and Latchkey Dr., both being nuclear tests.  As stated, Nuketown has been described as a 60's neighborhood in Nevada, which is during the Latchkey experiments in Nevada (July 1966 - June 1967). Based on this, we can conclude that this bomb is from Operation Latchkey.
How do we know it's the right place?  Operation Latchkey was held at the Nevada Testing Facility, and the Nuketown loading screen states we're in Nevada.
NOTES:
Please read Shooter's thread over Nuketown for a better understanding.

Nuketown Loading Screen:

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Latchkey Rd. and Trinity Ave. street signs:

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Time and Place: After 1986 (and after Moon/Nuketown) in Hanford, Washington, U.S.A., just North of the Hanford Site.
Characters: Abigail "Misty" Briarton, Marlton Johnson, Russman, and Samuel J. Stuhlinger.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? In the basement under Town, there are a few crates that have the USSR State Quality Mark, which was established in 1967 and swapped out in 1991 after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, giving us a basic timeline of 1967-1991. Marlton is wearing a calculator watch, which did not come out until 1975. In Farm, you will see a silo with Russian writing on it that pertains to the Chernobyl accident in 1986. In the Green Run radios, Dr. Maxis says he has been searching for survivors of the Moon nukes (1966/1967) for decades, which puts at least at 1986, coinciding with Chernobyl. The eye color of the zombies are blue the entire time, indicating it's after the MPD Soul Swap between Richtofen and Sam on Moon.
How do we know it's the right place? The Hanford Site was home to a project going by the same name as our map, Green Run, where they created the world's first plutonium production reactor for the Manhattan Project. In the Bus Depot, it shows the bus route, which you can see below is an identical overhead view of Hanford. Upon entering the game, the loading screen states you're in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Earth map shows us in the Northwest corner of the U.S.A. compared to the green atom representing Nuketown (Nevada).
NOTES:
Please read Tac's thread over Chernobyl for a better understanding.

USSR State Quality Mark:

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Marlton's calculator watch:

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Overhead comparison of Hanford area and TranZit Bus Route:

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Green Run loading screen:

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Green Run Earth view:

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Time and Place: Post-Green Run and after 1996 in Province 22, China.
Characters: Abigail "Misty" Briarton, Marlton Johnson, Russman, and Samuel J. Stuhlinger.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? We know it's past 1996 because there's an advertisement on the map with "Since 1996" on the bottom. We know it's past 1998 because while playing, we can see what looks like the Jin Mao Tower, which was constructed on August 28th, 1998. In the loading screen, if you flip the loading screen upside down you see part of the Green Run loading screen behind it. As we know, Treyarch put the loading screens chronologically, therefore this map must be after Green Run.
How do we know it's the right place? The loading screen states "Province 22" on it (see below).
NOTES:
Please read PINNAZ's thread over the Jin Mao Tower for more information.

Jin Mao Tower comparison:

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Great Leap Forward loading screen:

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Great Leap Forward loading screen with Green Run loading screen segment:

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1996 poster:

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Time and Place: After April 18, 2000, in Angola, Africa.

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Characters: Abigail "Misty" Briarton, Marlton Johnson, Russman, and Samuel J. Stuhlinger.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? There is a portrait of scientist Michael Faraday, which published in 1857.  There are graves in the map that have the year 1887 on it.  The name of the map is Resolution 1295, which was a United Nations Security Council Resolution that was adopted on April 18, 2000.
How do we know it's the right place? On the world map when we select the map, it shows the map in Africa.  Along with that, on the loading screen, it states we're on the "primary plates" which houses Africa (along with five other continents and the entire Pacific).  The name of the map is Resolution 1295, which was a United Nations Security Council Resolution regarding the country of Angola and their Civil War that was occurring.
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Michael Faraday portrait:

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Universe 2
The Giant through Zetsubou No Shima

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Time and Place:  After October 1, 1945 in Lower Silesia near Breslau, Germany (same as Der Riese).

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time?: A Twitter bio card describing The Giant said it was in the year 1945. In this new universe, The Giant is at the exact same time, or perhaps a little before, Der Riese. The events are incredibly similar so if Der Riese was on the timeline of "after October 1st" then it's fair to assume that The Giant is as well.
How do we know it's the right place?: The same Twitter bio card details the location of The Giant. Additionally, being the same place as Der Riese, the location is interchangeable. Additionally, in Shadows of Evil, an assembled scrap of paper had four coordinates on there, including The Giant.
How do we know which universe it's in?: 
NOTES:

"1945" and "Breslau" Twitter promotional image:

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Time and Place: After October 1, 1945 (and after Der Riese) at Hohenwerfen Castle in Salzburg, Germany (formerly Werfen, Austria)

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time?: We know the map is in 1945 because of a promotional image on Twitter. Further, we know this map is in the same universe and after The Giant, meaning it had to take place after October 1, 1945.
How do we know it's the right place?: The loading screen says "Near Werfen, Austria" on it and the same 1945 promotional image says "Salzburg, Germany." Additionally, in Shadows of Evil, an assembled scrap of paper had four coordinates on there, including Der Eisendrache.
How do we know which universe it's in?: We arrive on this map by programming a giant robot from The Giant and taking it to Der Eisendrache, as shown in the intro cinematic. This means we are in the same universe as The Giant, and therefore Universe 3.
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Der Eisendrache Loading screen:

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"1945" Twitter promotional image:

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*IMAGE COMING SOON*

 

Time and Place: Late 1945/ Early 1946 in the South Pacific on Pohnpei Island

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time?:  This map is in the same universe as, but after both, The Giant and Der Eisendrache. Seeing as each of those maps are after October 1, 1945, it's fair to say that this map is in either late 1945 or early 1946.
How do we know it's the right place?: In Shadows of Evil, upon assembling a scrap of paper, four coordinates are shown on it. They are the coordinates to The Giant, Der Eisendrache, Zetsubou No Shima, and an unannounced map in Stalingrad. 
How do we know which universe it's in?: There is little evidence for or against which universe Zetsuibou No Shima is in, though a Der Eisendrache cipher points to "resurrecting ancient beasts" and that seems to be what's happening with the dragons. Just food for thought.
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Universe 3
Shadows of Evil and Mob of the Dead

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Time and Place:  Around Friday, April 10th, 1942 in Morg City.

 

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Characters:  Nero Blackstone (the Magician), Jack Vincent (the Cop), Floyd Campbell (the Boxer), and Jessica (the Femme Fatale)
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time?:  Promotional material for Shadows of Evil has stated that the map is a 1940s world.  Additionally, the only year in the 1940s in which April 10th falls on a Friday (as seen on the Snapchat promotional material) is 1942.
How do we know it's the right place?:  Promotional material has stated that the map is in Morg City.
How do we know which universe it's in?: There are shops around the map that indicate the Mob of the Dead quartet lived or operated in Morg City. Additionally, there is an "Escape From the Tomb" movie playing in Shadows, where in Mob of the Dead we had to throw the Hell's Retriever at it. Also important, there is a map of Alcatraz Island in the subway area of Shadows of Evil. Finally, the cop Jack Vincent has several quotes relating to knowing of the four mobsters.
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"1940s" Promotional Material:

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Snapchat promotional material with "April 10" date:

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Promotional material with "Morg City" location:

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Mob of the Dead Shops, "Escape From the Tomb," and map:

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Jack Vincent quote about mobsters:

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"Ah stop your fucking bitching, it could've been worse. You could've been sent to Alcatraz!"
"Finn O'Leary's whiskey tasted better than this shit."
"What is this?? One of Billy Handsome's trophies?"

 

 

Time and Place: December 31, 1933, at 9:35 PM on Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay, California, U.S.A.

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Characters: Billy Handsome, Salvatore "Sal" Deluca, Michael "Finn" O'Leary, and Albert "The Weasel" Arlington.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? On the Loading Screen of the map, the bottom right hand corner of it is a newspaper clipping from October, 17, 1917, reading, "Wall Street In Panic As Stocks Crash". In the Official Trailer, they show the schematics for the plane and on the top of the left page, just left of the crease, there's a date that reads Feb. 26, 1932. Also in the trailer, they show the Chicago newspaper that covered Deluca being busted, and the newspaper was dated June 13, 1932. On the official Call of Duty website, it shows the Golden Gate Bridge in the background (picture below) and it's still under construction. The bridge wasn't started until January 5th, 1933.

Those were all minimum dates, now to get to the exact date. In the radio in the map that is revealed as we do the Easter Egg, we find out from a "Stanley Ferguson" that the escape attempt happens on New Years Eve, 1933. In the opening cinematic for solo, they state that lights go out in the map at 9:30, and Albert Arlington kills the guard, Ferguson, at 9:35 as he makes his final rounds and lights are going out.
How do we know it's the right place? The on screen prompt in the Behind the Scenes trailer says:
Alcatraz Island
San Francisco, CA
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Loading Screen with "Wall Street" segment:

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Official trailer with "Feb 26, 1932" date:

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Chicago newspaper with "June 13, 1932" date:

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Call of Duty website background:

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Stanley Ferguson radio segment:

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*This is only a portion of the full radio story, for more visit here:* {C}viewtopic.php?f=100&t=11929{C}

Stanley Ferguson: My name is Stanley Ferguson, I was a guard at Alcatraz from 1933 to 1942. Today, I'm going to give you some insight into one of the more interesting tales of the prisons history. Over the decades, Alcatraz has seen more than its fair share of daring escape attempts. However, few were as audacious as the one undertaken by four inmates, on New Years Eve, 1933. Thought to be the brainchild of an inmate by the name of Albert Arlington, the outrageous scheme was as unlikely as its mastermind.

 

 

 

Universe 4
Origins

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Time and Place: Between April 14, 1918, and November 11, 1918, at Excavation Site 64 in Bar-le-Duc, Northern France.

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Characters: Tank Dempsey, Takeo Masaki, Nikolai Belinski, and Dr. Edward Richtofen.
EVIDENCE:
How do we know this is the right time? We know it's 1918 because in the opening Origins cinematic, Treyarch showed that the map took place in 1918. We know the minimum date is April 17th because in a letter written by Tank Dempsey on that day, he mentions that the Japanese and Russians had found out about the German's plans, implying they hadn't met yet, meaning the map hadn't taken place. We know the latest date is November 11th because when we play in the map, we see planes fighting, meaning World War I had yet to end.
How do we know it's the right place? In the opening Origins cinematic, it states we are in Northern France, as well as zooming in on Bar-le-Duc. It's been shown that the megalith in the map is exactly the same as ones that were in Bar-le-Duc.
NOTES:
Please read PINNAZ's thread on Bar-le-Duc megalith's for more information.

Origins cinematic with "1918" date:

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Tank Dempsey "Letter From the Field":

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April 14, 1918

After far too long waiting on the sidelines, we finally got our first taste of combat. Our actions at Belleau Wood seem to have brought their Spring Offensive to a grinding halt. We even heard talk that Fritz has nicknamed us the Devil Dogs', following the all round ass kicking they took... and that's fine by me. We intercepted communications suggesting that we're not the only nation to learn of the enemy's plans. Scuttlebutt is that the Russians & Japanese are looking to grab a slice of the action. Things are going to get interesting.

Dempsey

Poster with planes flying:

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Universes 5 and 6 (and 7 and 8 and 9...)

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From The Giant, we hear Nikolai say that he has "killed at least three Richtofen's," presumably including the Richtofen from The Giant. This adds two unknown universes in which someone has tampered with things. Also adding to the list, the Shadows of Evil note shows that Richtofen has traveled many times and seen many histories (which a Zetsubou No Shima cipher warns of these dangers). Finally, there's another Zetsubou No Shima cipher (seemingly from Dr. Maxis) about "killing that version of yourself in that particular universe at that particular moment in time, once each of your other selves are killed across all universes." (Some took this last sentence to indicate that the latest three Black Ops 3 maps were in different universes, but I don't believe this to be the case.) As can be seen, there's lots of room for other universes.

[ZombieOfTheDead]

Pretty good so far. Still don't entirely believe ascension is that early, but oh well. You should probably add the parts of SNN you know about so far btw.

[Tac]

This post is reserved for if I run out of space on my OP.

[ZombieOfTheDead]

Cool. Btw I think as far as SNN we won't be able to determine the time of the outbreak until the next map pack. Since it's looking to be a swamp/jungle area, we can hope.

[Tac]

  Zombieofthedead said:

Cool. Btw I think as far as SNN we won't be able to determine the time of the outbreak until the next map pack. Since it's looking to be a swamp/jungle area, we can hope.

Add me on Facebook (Search *edited*, I am shooting an AK) Maybe we can talk Zombies tonight? Kinda not liking filling this forum up, although people could benefit from our conversations. IDK add me anyways, we can talk where ever

[ZombieOfTheDead]

  TacticalInsertion said:

Add me on Facebook (Search Brad Davies, I am shooting an AK) Maybe we can talk Zombies tonight? Kinda not liking filling this forum up, although people could benefit from our conversations. IDK add me anyways, we can talk where ever

I'm not big on facebook tbh. Can't even remember my password. I'll see about that tomarrow, though, I should probably be getting to bed anyways.

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  Zombieofthedead said:

  TacticalInsertion said:

Add me on Facebook (Search Brad Davies, I am shooting an AK) Maybe we can talk Zombies tonight? Kinda not liking filling this forum up, although people could benefit from our conversations. IDK add me anyways, we can talk where ever

I'm not big on facebook tbh. Can't even remember my password. I'll see about that tomarrow, though, I should probably be getting to bed anyways.

Kk, night dude, tell me how your story comes along, we can discuss again later

[Strwrsbob]

I don't see any evidence for Nacht being that time, the evidence section is blank. Also, I don't think it is near Reichstag as there would be city around it... there isn't. I think the "Your drove them into the heart of the reich" is referring to the Nazis, and how the last mission or so was "Heart of the reich"

The similarity between the real-life rocket and the ascension is because.... they are the same rocket. The Soviets have been using the exact same rockets for years, and the Ascension one is just based off real-life rockets.

[STOTTINMAD]

Shi No Numa may have been after Der Riese as the black ops radio is of them commenting on how they time travelled I might be wrong mind what with the timeline being mixed up...

[TFG Dubz]

Kinos location:

COTD possible location:

Zhokhov Island this is different from the usual ideas of where Call of the Dead might be (look at Alphasnakes posts to see the other more popular theory on COTD location, anyway, the reason i picked this island is for one silly little reason, Zhokhov Island is mentioned in Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb as a place where the Russians built the doomsday device, the Doomsday device has also been linked (all be it loosely) to the documents entitled DEATH RAY in Zombies

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  Strwrsbob said:

I don't see any evidence for Nacht being that time, the evidence section is blank. Also, I don't think it is near Reichstag as there would be city around it... there isn't. I think the "Your drove them into the heart of the reich" is referring to the Nazis, and how the last mission or so was "Heart of the reich"

The similarity between the real-life rocket and the ascension is because.... they are the same rocket. The Soviets have been using the exact same rockets for years, and the Ascension one is just based off real-life rockets.

Fair enough about NDU, but everyone thought the rocket was a soyuz, when in fact it isn't.

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  MrRoflWaffles said:

Just going to put some ideas down, feel free to tear them apart at will haha.

For starters, the Cosmodrome may not be named in any of the radios etc as Baikonur was not known as Baikonur until Gagarin's flight - and the cosmodrome isn't even in Baikonur!

Really like what ya did with Kino thar

"Nacht Der Untoten: Late September, Early October of 1945 near the Reichstag, Berlin."

Just... no Just becuase you drove the Nazis deep into the heart of the Reich doesn't mean that you will be there for the map - note the Russian perspective however as it was their final push into Germany, so it would be THEM 'pushing' into the heart of the Reich.

Whether the Cosmosdrome had it's name or not or is physically in Baikonur, it was the Baikonur Cosmo testing site LC-31.

Thank you regarding Kino

And as for NDU, Other than it being in Germany, I have nothing. I just can't tell anymore.

Get tearing ;D

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I have edited the Ascension section, thanks to BlindBusDrivr for helping sort out the rocket thing, this might be edited a few more times tonight, but they will only be small changes, I doubt anything regarding dates unless I learn new SNN info.

[AlphaSnake]

Kino:

"(static) Entry 741021! Perhaps the station will hold the key to the real goals of group 935. I still do not trust my unconventional allies, but they are of great use to me. But, I digress. Who would have thought the MDT was capable of time travel? How many stations does this group have? Where did that little girl disappear to? Only time will tell what new questions awaits us in this...THEATER OF THE DAMNED! (static)"

Dr. Edward Richtofen

How do you explain these dates if it is set in the 60's... 1941, 1945 & 1950...?

Again Ascension is 1962-63... JFK was assassinated on November 22, 1963. So if Ascension was 69' how can the red phones heard in Ascension be giving audio from Five? It's 62-63 max, the end of the Cuban missile crisis...

Also Der Riese: Has to be pre 45':

The war in Europe ended with the capture of Berlin by Soviet and Polish troops and the subsequent German unconditional surrender on 8 May 1945.

Der Riese would have been in Russian & Allied hands by October 1945.

Hope this helps.

Regards Alpha.

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In my honest opinion, the dates just represent that we are time travelling.

Also, I think the phones are recordings, otherwise they went back in time to Ascension w/o a teleporter (unless S-L is between here, which I think it is.) Also Cuban Missile Crisis ended October 29, '62. So FIVE is no later than that.

[AlphaSnake]

The phones actually ring as if some made the call & there is a spy located on Rebirth island...

"Sample was acquired from CIA asset based out of Vozrozhdeniya in the Soviet Union"

The Terminal.

If your at the CIA headquarters the Pentagon (Five) Does it not make sense that they would have used the phones to contact the Pentagon & vice versa...?

The only reason I can see is they are happening at the same time.

This spy in Vozrozhdeniya could have been transfered to Ascension at some point.

Like Mason & the others the spy would have reported to Mcnamara & JFK directly at some point.

Oh, don't forget the Ascension rocket model & the Exposed magazine found in Five:

Regards Alpha

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See, where did a spy come into this? What does he have to do with anything? The magazine is dynamite, the date shows March 15th, 1961 I think. Is there a smaller image so it's not so pixel-ly and we can read it better? So what do you suppose I change it too? My original post was that the rocket was something else, but someone said it wasn't had to change. I think I will change it to my original. But then that means that Ascension is before Kino, and then CoTD, then S-L?

[AlphaSnake]

It is 61' I have good eyes.

Here is the original:

The spy could be Richtofen...! Ever wonder why his picture is in Five & in the room requiring 115 clearance?

Hmm, actually this makes sense...

We see the Illuminati pyramid in both Ascension & Five, Richtofen is/was working for the Illuminati. It is a common conspiriacy theory that the US has been taken over by the Illuminati.

Thus Richtofen is working under the Umbrella of the Illuminati via MJ-12...?

But knowing Richtofen, you know he has his own agenda, he's smart enough to play along until the right moment.

The Cuban Missile Crisis (known as The October Crisis in Cuba or Russian): The confrontation ended on October 28, 1962

It would have taken time to get Castro to come to the Pentagon in person...

By 63' JFK was dead so we have this confirmed window, plus the time stamps on those magazines.

Sorry dude, I'm rabbiting on here.

"More rabbit, than water ship down" as my brother in law would say."

I just want to help.

Regards Snake.

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  AlphaSnake said:

It is 61' I have good eyes.

Here is the original:

The spy could be Richtofen...! Ever wonder why his picture is in Five & in the room requiring 115 clearance?

Regards Snake.

Doesn't it look like the Cosmic one says '82 though?

[AlphaSnake]

Yes, but the space race had been going for quite some time by then, more of a marathon that the soviets lost in 91'.

I'd bet my left nut on 62'.

I added more to my last post, you replied while I was editing it...

Regards Snake.

[x FOROURHERO x]

Im pretty sure they were at Shangri-La last because they are described as going to 'Paradise' after the easter egg on Call of the Dead and they mention Gersch while they are at Call of the Dead which means they went from Ascension to Call of the Dead to Shangri-La.

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  x FOROURHERO x said:

Im pretty sure they were at Shangri-La last because they are described as going to 'Paradise' after the easter egg on Call of the Dead and they mention Gersch while they are at Call of the Dead which means they went from Ascension to Call of the Dead to Shangri-La.

I figured it out! They went from Der Riese to Kino, forward in time to CoTD, back in time to S-L, and then to Ascension in the past

[ZombieOfTheDead]

  TacticalInsertion said:

  x FOROURHERO x said:

Im pretty sure they were at Shangri-La last because they are described as going to 'Paradise' after the easter egg on Call of the Dead and they mention Gersch while they are at Call of the Dead which means they went from Ascension to Call of the Dead to Shangri-La.

I figured it out! They went from Der Riese to Kino, forward in time to CoTD, back in time to S-L, and then to Ascension in the past

Again, the gersch quote. Ascension before cotd

[AlphaSnake]

So Richtofen put that space suit on for shits & giggles then?

Then decided to change into his old smelly uniform that he's been wearing since the 40's for his trip to Shangri-La.

I think Treyarch screwed up on this one.

Regards Snake.

[ZombieOfTheDead]

  AlphaSnake said:

So Richtofen put that space suit on for shits & giggles then?

Then decided to change into his old smelly uniform that he's been wearing since the 40's for his trip to Shangri-La.

I think Treyarch screwed up on this one.

Regards Snake.

Pretty much. Guess he's attatched to that uniform lol.