Computers on Griffin Station

[Silvaria]

There's something odd about the systems that Group 935 had on Griffin Station. The base was built in the forties or so, with technology and scientists from that era. Obviously they didn't time travel for them, since Richtofen didn't invite Gersch to the project. Yet, when you explore the base, the computers all seem to be far beyond the level of the time. Potentially storing AI, holding music files which in total are probably larger than the entire storage capacity of early computers, activating and supporting a Casimir mechanism, the list goes on.

Now, we know that 935 was highly advanced, right? You can't throw a stick without hitting some fancy machine that one of their members created. It just makes me wonder: If they had that amazing technology so many decades early, why wasn't it shared with the world? If the scientists had invented them pre-Nazi deal, and Maxis truly believed in the group ideals, it seems like he would have chosen to release the information. Those profits would be able to fund the group many times over. If it was done post-deal, it still could have helped Group 935 with their experiments (I can't imagine those materials came cheap or easy from smuggling it out). Their goal supposedly was to help the "human condition", wasn't it?

..Oh dear, I rambled on quite a bit, huh? Did that make any sense?

[nayrcraig]

..Oh dear, I rambled on quite a bit, huh? Did that make any sense?

thats a problem i often have

but we dont know how long 935 was running before it became Nazi-influenced

and i suppose this was some pretty high tech stuff, and all still powered by the same model of power switch

[Silvaria]

Hey, maybe they just liked the speciality Severed Arm Style the designers gave them. That rotting flesh smell just really helps the room's energy out.

Now that I think about it, and checking the radios, it seems like they had them way back during the first MDT tests, which is before the deal was finalized. I guess that Group 935 might have valued secrecy that much, but if Dr. Maxis felt that way, that Nazi Party deal would never would have happened. It just seems really conflicting. Either Maxis is a dirty, filthy, annoying liar with no idea of what good conduct in a scientist is while lying through his teeth in the 935 handbook to lure international scientists into a trap (my current choice), there was another reason for them making the deal, or they didn't believe that tech with no immediate war applications would sell nearly as well with that storm brewing on the horizon. Any other ideas?

[K1llsteelr]

Checking into the early development of computers and code will reveal more thats possible

The Magnetstromapparat is also interesting with the way it cycles

What is underneath the diagram ?

Just a simple on off binary

01010101010101010101010

There is also evidence in the maps of superconducters film/magnetic tape for storage, valves

[ngin890]

Based off of the radios on Moon, I don't think that Maxis knew of Griffin Station. Yes, he is in the radios but I think the events of the early radios were in Der Riese because after Edward touches the MDP and addresses his followers, he talks about how HE teleported them to the moon and built the station. Makes it seem Richtofen did it secretly with his supporters while Maxis worked at Der Riese on teleportation, which he hadn't mastered yet, but Edward had.

Maxis was about the human condition and would have shared the tech at Griffin Station had he known about it, but maybe not since he destroyed the earth while claiming to helping the human condition five minutes earlier. Richtofen on the other hand only wanted to complete his scheme and definetly wouldn't share any tech outside of his followers.

[Silvaria]

Oh, Dr. Maxis didn't know of Griffin Station or the multiple successful experiments there. Well, in my thoughts, anyway. The amount of effort Dr. Richtofen had to put into it by smuggling materials and such out of the other members labs seems like too much hassle if he had clearance for it already, and the MDT would have been declared a triumph long before the outbreak and plan came into things. I'm more concerned with the idea that they had computers BEFORE the station was built, and they were common knowledge to 935 at large back as early as 1939, even. I forget which radio made me think that the computers were around at the time (I'll check that in a second), but the fact that they are present at Griffin Station is what made the idea click.

I... sort of doubt Dr. Maxis truly being for the human condition, but that's for another place. It just seems to me that if they had all of those things, gathering some funds together in order to stay independent of government influence wouldn't be terribly difficult. Not even giving the whole picture away, the idea of a fully working circuit board of that level, plus data storage, would have been phenomenal. I mean, the Datenbediensteter exists, which means there was a computer around for him to use it with. Beyond Mr. Zuse's level of complexity in even his latest models (Thank you for that lovely read, Steeler), to the point of 21'st century levels of late 20'th century at earliest. The amount of money a private contractor would pay for a tiny, life-changing piece of technology that wouldn't even be a whole invention would be phenomenal, without getting in the way of the whole "international coalition of scientists" fun they had going. Other scientists could have worked it out who were not affiliated with the Group, and they get a crud load of royalties.

I mean really, funding wouldn't have been nearly as big of an issue if Dr. Maxis had thought of it instead of- Not the place, but you get my point. Those computers were a gold mine. It would have helped humanity. It might not have sold as well with war brewing as it would during peace time, but it still could have had a major impact while allowing neutrality. Scientific Switzerland.

[MixMasterNut]

Here is where I think the computers on Griffin Station come from....

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Watch the very end of this clip [10]

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the scene takes place in this warehouse

[BlindBusDrivr]

Here is where I think the computers on Griffin Station come from....

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Watch the very end of this clip [10]

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the scene takes place in this warehouse

damn does 3arc love indiana jones