Best setup for each map

[TheSlushTurtle]

hey guys i was just thinking about the best setup YOU can have on each map (solo or co-op)

This is what ID like to have for CO-OP

kino

perks-jug,qr,speed,(if rpk or hk then dt)

guns-ak74u or mp40,raygun

monkeys bombs

five

perks-jug,mule kick,speed

guns-awful lawton,winters howl, hk21

monkey bombs

ascension

perks-buy jug,qr,flopper,mule kick (pending getting other perks by monkeys)

guns-mustang and sally,raide,lamination

gersch devices

call of the dead

perks-jug,qr,flopper, mule kick (pending getting perks from george)

guns-mustang and sally,ak74u, vr-11

dolls

shangri-la

perks-jug,qr,mule kick,flopper (pending perks from monkeys)

gun-mustang and sally,ak74u,babyray

monkeys

moon

perks-jug,flopper,speed,staminup (pending EE)

guns-mustang and sally,HACKED ak74fu2

i like QEDS 8-)

nacht

perks-mule kick ftw

guns-thunder,ray,rpk

monekys

verruckt

perks-jug,qr,speed,mule kcick

guns-raygun,winters howl,mp40

monkeys

shi no numa

perks-jug,qr,speed,

guns-wunderwaffle,rpk

monkeys

der reise

perks-jug,speed,qr

guns-wunderwaffle,stg-44 (for strategy i do)

monkeys

what do you guys think? critiscism welcome...this is for round 30+ because under round 20 you can kill with pretty much any gun

[Tom852]

Not a bad choice you got there

Now the Freeze Gun is pretty useless imho in 30+, the Raid (isn't that the Stakeout upgraded?) is crap and the VR is, well, it's the VR. So much bullshit, and so much needed for 40+ coop. Now of course you also would like to have the infinite damage guns, such as the Thunder in Kino. Get an extra zombie wave with the QED in 50 while you are out of ammo, and you won't like it anymore.

For me it's just that my favorite set up is absolutely dependent of the circumstances. When I get gun X out of the box, I might get perk Y, but only before Round Z. So it is so much variable, that a list like that makes no sense overall. Not to forget is the general preferences of people. Some might be awesome with the Wunderwaffe, others might fail like hell with it.

So overall, it doesn't make much sense to try to find an ultimate setup. It is too much dependent of the situation. Of course you could develop an awesome setup - but as soon as a unique gun is in there (a gun that only one player can have), it fails. E.g., I'd like to have a Life Saver gun, a killing gun, and a point gun. The life saver can be the thunder, it can be the crossbow, or it can be the M&S. But I might have a M&S already, and get the bow off the box. So I'm double life saving now, can use the M&S as a killing gun, so the third gun might now completely chance its role. I also do not need Gershes anymore, since I have the bow, now I want rather dolls. It is so much dependent of situations and circumstances.

But it is for sure a nice general setup you posted here. I know, I was pretty hard with you now I wouldn't have written that, when you wouldn't have asked for criticism. Overall, any guy going with these guns you proposed hasn't done a bad choice.

By the way, I'm very happy you posted this in the Gameplay section Happy that it takes roots by time! Good job!

[Nathan169]

For me.

BO

Kino:

Perks- Jug, Speed, DT, and QR

Weapons: MP40 and Spectre

Very Nice setup.

Five:

Perks- Jug, Speed, DT, and QR

Weapons: AK-74u and Ray Gun

Fun Setup for Five.

Ascenison:

Perks- Jug, Speed, PHD, and Stamin Up

Weapons: M16 and RPK

Money making setup.

Call of the Dead:

Perks- Jug, Speed, PHD, and DT

Weapons: MP40 and HK

Shangri La:

There is not really good setups

Moon:

Perks- Jug, Speed, PHD, and DT

Weapons: AK-74u and Wave Gun

Fun setup too.

W@W:

Natch Der Untoten:

Perks- Mule Kick

Weapons: Thompson, BAR, and Ray Gun

Verruckt:

Perks- Jug, Speed, DT, and QR

Weapons: MP40 and BAR

Fun camping setup

Shi No Numa:

Perks-Jug,Speed, DT, and QR

Weapons: BAR and Trench Gun

Nice setup

Behold! the best setup ever! *Warning: Epicness of setup*

Der Riese:

Perks- Jug, Speed, DT, and QR

Weapons: PPsh and FG-42

Best and Money making setup ever.

Couldnt resist this setup, its the best setup ever! for me

:D

[MysteryMachineX]

Here is what I advise. With fewer players, you'll get better weapons, but with many, there's only so much to go around. I also advise the same Perks for all players.

Nacht der Untoten:

-Player 1= Thundergun, Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 3= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 4= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Perks= Mule Kick

Verruckt:

-Player 1= Winter's Howl, Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 3= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 4= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Shi No Numa:

-Player 1= Wunderwaffe DG-2, Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 3= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 4= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Der Riese:

-Player 1= Wunderwaffe DG-3 JZ, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Kino der Toten:

-Player 1= Zeus Cannon, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

"Five":

-Player 1= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Winter's Fury, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Ascension:

-Player 1= Zeus Cannon, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

Call of the Dead:

-Player 1= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= V-R11 Lazarus, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= Hyena Infra-Dead, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

Shangri-La:

-Player 1= The Fractalizer, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

Moon:

-Player 1= Porter's X2 Zap Gun Dual Wield, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

[TheSlushTurtle]

Here is what I advise. With fewer players, you'll get better weapons, but with many, there's only so much to go around. I also advise the same Perks for all players.

Nacht der Untoten:

-Player 1= Thundergun, Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 3= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 4= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Perks= Mule Kick

Verruckt:

-Player 1= Winter's Howl, Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 3= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 4= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Shi No Numa:

-Player 1= Wunderwaffe DG-2, Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 3= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Player 4= Ray Gun, point gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Der Riese:

-Player 1= Wunderwaffe DG-3 JZ, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Kino der Toten:

-Player 1= Zeus Cannon, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

"Five":

-Player 1= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Winter's Fury, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, Double-Tap Root Beer

Ascension:

-Player 1= Zeus Cannon, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

Call of the Dead:

-Player 1= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= V-R11 Lazarus, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= Hyena Infra-Dead, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

Shangri-La:

-Player 1= The Fractalizer, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= Awful Lawton, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

Moon:

-Player 1= Porter's X2 Zap Gun Dual Wield, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 2= The Krauss Refibrillator, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 3= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Player 4= Mustang and Sally, Porter's X2 Ray Gun, point gun

-Perks= Juggernog, Speed Cola, Mule Kick, PhD Flopper

nice i was thinking about doing this but i have another thread in mind for that onw ;)

[Superhands]

I always used to go for LMGs, but I've sort of figured that you may as well stick with wall guns just until you can get some power weapons so you can just horde, kill and repeat, you still make a nice point-cushion to recover with anyways.

Here's my choice of weapons and perks for solo, pretty much the same for co-op:

Nacht: Thundergun, Ray Gun, Thompson

Verruckt: Winter's Howl, Ray Gun; get rid of the Winter's for Thompson at 30+ to start using traps - Jugg, QR, DT, SPeed

Shi No Numa: Wunderwaffe, Ray Gun; trade Ray for Thompson at 30+ for traps - Jugg, QR, Speed, DT

Der Riese: Wunderwaffe, Ray Gun, Thompson - Jugg, QR, Mule, DT

Kino: Thundergun, Ray Gun - Jugg, DT, QR, Speed

FIVE: Mustang & Sally, Awful Lawton (or Winter's up until about 30 if I get it), Ray Gun - Jugg, Speed, QR, Mule

Ascension: Thundergun, Mustang & Sally (or one of those + Ray Gun for co-op), Gersch Devices - Jugg, QR, Staminup, PhD

COTD: M&S, Scavenger, VR-11 for 1-2 players or Ray Gun for 3-4 - Jugg, QR, PhD, Mule

Shangri La: Shrink Gun, M&S, Ray Gun for co-op - Jugg, QR, PhD, Staminup

Moon: Wave Gun, M&S, Ray Gun for co-op, Gersch Devices - Jugg, QR, PhD, Speed

[Dandaman955]

Good list, but here are some edits that I would make, highlighted in RED!

kino

perks-jug,qr, Mule Kick, speed,(if rpk or hk then dt) Just buy them all. No reason not to.

guns-ak74u or mp40,raygun (Only if the Thundergun is unavailable, as the Ray Gun is outclassed by it.) and Crossbow (If you have Mule Kick).

monkeys bombs

five

perks-jug,mule kick,speed

guns-awful lawton,winters howl Ak-74u, hk21 (BTW, only use the Winter's Fury in the earlier rounds, as it progressively gets worse. Ditch it around round 25.)

monkey bombs

ascension

perks-buy jug,qr,flopper,mule kick (pending getting other perks by monkeys)

guns-mustang and sally raide (Why on earth would you choose Raid? Use a Thundergun! :Z),lamination

gersch devices

call of the dead

perks-jug,qr,flopper, mule kick (pending getting perks from george)

guns-mustang and sally (Use a Crossbow in the later rounds) ,ak74u, vr-11 (Scavenger is also viable, as is the Wunderwaffe).

dolls

shangri-la

perks-jug,qr,mule kick,flopper (pending perks from monkeys)

gun-mustang and sally, (Use a Crossbow in the later rounds) ak74u,babyray

monkeys

moon

perks-jug,flopper,speed,staminup (pending EE) (Find some room for Mule Kick)

guns-mustang and sally,HACKED ak74fu2 (Be VERY careful if you decide to hack it...), Wave Gun.

i like QEDS 8-) (Stay away, especially since there's Gersch Devices on the level. Use them instead.)

nacht

perks-mule kick ftw

guns-thunder,ray,rpk (Better off using the Thompson, because of the two Wonder Weapons, and it's buy-able off the walls.)

monekys

verruckt

perks-jug,qr,speed,mule kcick

guns-raygun,winters how,mp40

monkeys

shi no numa

perks-jug,qr,speed, (You can use Mule Kick if you want to.)

guns-wunderwaffle,rpk (Use as a tertiary weapon if you do decide to get MK. You're best off using the Thompson because it has a higher damage and ammo can be bought, unlike box weapons).

monkeys

der reise

perks-jug,speed,qr

guns-wunderwaffle,stg-44 (for strategy i do) (The Thompson, Type 100 and Crossbow work as well. I've seen some people buy the Trench Gun, go ahead if it floats your boat.)

monkeys

And that wraps up my edition of this list.

[Silentcrisis]

I usually always get Mule Kick and M&S unless I'm going for a really high solo round. Then I usually take the Ray Gun and either the map's wonder weapon or if someone else gets it first either something like an AUG, Commando or Galil or the Awful Lawton. I don't really like the LMGs as they slow me down more than i'm comfortable with. If PHD is not available I usually prefer to get Awful Lawton, although sometimes I will still get M&S.

Kino: Awful Lawton, Thundergun, Ray gun, Monkeys.

Five: Awful Lawton, Winter's Howl, Ray Gun, Monkeys.

Ascension: Thundergun, Ray Gun, M&S, Gerschs.

COTD: Scavenger (Or VR-11 if not available), Ray Gun, M&S, Dolls.

Shangri-La: M&S, 3179 JGb-215, Ray Gun.

Moon: Zap/Wave Gun(s), Ray Gun, M&S.

So those are my ideal setups, like I said if the wonder weapon is not available then I will usually get an Assault Rifle or wall gun. On the classic maps the setups are the same exept on NDU, Verruckt and Shi No I do not buy Mule Kick and instead just take whatever from the box, and the WW if available. On Der Riese I like to have M&S/AwfulLawton, Ray Gun and the DG-2 or Thompson.

[TheSlushTurtle]

Good list, but here are some edits that I would make, highlighted in RED!

kino

perks-jug,qr, Mule Kick, speed,(if rpk or hk then dt) Just buy them all. No reason not to.

guns-ak74u or mp40,raygun (Only if the Thundergun is unavailable, as the Ray Gun is outclassed by it.) and Crossbow (If you have Mule Kick).

monkeys bombs

five

perks-jug,mule kick,speed

guns-awful lawton,winters howl Ak-74u, hk21 (BTW, only use the Winter's Fury in the earlier rounds, as it progressively gets worse. Ditch it around round 25.)

monkey bombs

ascension

perks-buy jug,qr,flopper,mule kick (pending getting other perks by monkeys)

guns-mustang and sally raide (Why on earth would you choose Raid? Use a Thundergun! :Z),lamination

gersch devices

call of the dead

perks-jug,qr,flopper, mule kick (pending getting perks from george)

guns-mustang and sally (Use a Crossbow in the later rounds) ,ak74u, vr-11 (Scavenger is also viable, as is the Wunderwaffe).

dolls

shangri-la

perks-jug,qr,mule kick,flopper (pending perks from monkeys)

gun-mustang and sally, (Use a Crossbow in the later rounds) ak74u,babyray

monkeys

moon

perks-jug,flopper,speed,staminup (pending EE) (Find some room for Mule Kick)

guns-mustang and sally,HACKED ak74fu2 (Be VERY careful if you decide to hack it...), Wave Gun.

i like QEDS 8-) (Stay away, especially since there's Gersch Devices on the level. Use them instead.)

nacht

perks-mule kick ftw

guns-thunder,ray,rpk (Better off using the Thompson, because of the two Wonder Weapons, and it's buy-able off the walls.)

monekys

verruckt

perks-jug,qr,speed,mule kcick

guns-raygun,winters how,mp40

monkeys

shi no numa

perks-jug,qr,speed, (You can use Mule Kick if you want to.)

guns-wunderwaffle,rpk (Use as a tertiary weapon if you do decide to get MK. You're best off using the Thompson because it has a higher damage and ammo can be bought, unlike box weapons).

monkeys

der reise

perks-jug,speed,qr

guns-wunderwaffle,stg-44 (for strategy i do) (The Thompson, Type 100 and Crossbow work as well. I've seen some people buy the Trench Gun, go ahead if it floats your boat.)

monkeys

And that wraps up my edition of this list.

The reason for no thundergun on kino and ascension is because when I play i usually let my teamate get it.

I use the raid because i rape train by PaP and its good for points even non upgraded but yeah..thats personal preference

be careful hacking 74u....?

If it was solo then id do these all over but i said when I play its what I usually get

MurderMachineX also gave some good tips and haha i usually trade my QEDS for gershes by round 30 and also i always keep a wall gun with me for points

[Dandaman955]

The reason for no thundergun on kino and ascension is because when I play i usually let my teamate get it.

I listed Ray Gun if you wanted a replacement. Even if you couldn't get the Thundergun, grab the Crossbow!

I use the raid because i rape train by PaP and its good for points even non upgraded but yeah..thats personal preference

Bah, it isn't the best of guns to use for a train. It's penetration is too low, and you're not gonna get anything in the later rounds. If you want a real zombie killer, stick with the AK and go for headshots. You can also grab the Commando and Galil because they whip ass as well.

be careful hacking 74u....?

Yep, Moon's one of those mistake-prone maps; you go down and you're not getting it back cheap. It's one of those maps where Juggernog is a PITA to get, so you're going to go down a bit.

If it was solo then id do these all over but i said when I play its what I usually get

I know, but there are still much better weapons. The Crossbow should be used on any set except Moons, as it is a literal lifesaver and doesn't take 3 seconds to prime, unlike Monkey Bombs.

MurderMachineX also gave some good tips and haha i usually trade my QEDS for gershes by round 30 and also i always keep a wall gun with me for points

The QEDs are a deathtrap waiting to happen. I'd take 'em, but switch them out as soon as possible.

[xFaTaLx RaMpAgE]

Kino: Thundergun, wall gun

Five: Combat knife

Ascension: thundergun and ak74fu2

CotD: m&s and scavenger

SL: baby gun and ak74

Moon: ray gun, m&s, wave gun.

[TheSlushTurtle]

The reason for no thundergun on kino and ascension is because when I play i usually let my teamate get it.

I listed Ray Gun if you wanted a replacement. Even if you couldn't get the Thundergun, grab the Crossbow!

I use the raid because i rape train by PaP and its good for points even non upgraded but yeah..thats personal preference

Bah, it isn't the best of guns to use for a train. It's penetration is too low, and you're not gonna get anything in the later rounds. If you want a real zombie killer, stick with the AK and go for headshots. You can also grab the Commando and Galil because they whip ass as well.

be careful hacking 74u....?

Yep, Moon's one of those mistake-prone maps; you go down and you're not getting it back cheap. It's one of those maps where Juggernog is a PITA to get, so you're going to go down a bit.

If it was solo then id do these all over but i said when I play its what I usually get

I know, but there are still much better weapons. The Crossbow should be used on any set except Moons, as it is a literal lifesaver and doesn't take 3 seconds to prime, unlike Monkey Bombs.

MurderMachineX also gave some good tips and haha i usually trade my QEDS for gershes by round 30 and also i always keep a wall gun with me for points

The QEDs are a deathtrap waiting to happen. I'd take 'em, but switch them out as soon as possible.

I dont need crossbow on kino i stay in alley all game and not too toot my own horn but i know how to play it SO well its not even gunny

If you go down in moon it still stays hacked...and if you die then you shouldve made so much for only 600 for upgraded ammo you should be able to PaP it right away

I usually have galil as 3rd weapon on ascension

It wouldnt be smart to use crossbow on nacht verruckt and shino (joking)

I know i just like to throw QEDS if i get them I KNOW gershes are better

[MysteryMachineX]

QEDs aren't deathtraps. They can be pretty handy. Honestly, their bad effects aren't that common; good effects are much more common. Just try to actually use them whenever you get them; NOT at the end of a Round. (10% chance of extra Zombies when you do that; 0% otherwise).

[TheSlushTurtle]

QEDs aren't deathtraps. They can be pretty handy. Honestly, their bad effects aren't that common; good effects are much more common. Just try to actually use them whenever you get them; NOT at the end of a Round. (10% chance of extra Zombies when you do that; 0% otherwise).

exactly i dont throw them with crawler i throw them during rounds to see what it does because its fun and i usually get them if im doing easter egg

[anguscr]

Kino-

Guns- Thundergun, Awful Lawton/M16

Perks- Jug, QR, Speed, DT

I run the stage, not a full-mapper, so any other wall weapon is basically useless. From 20-39ish I'll usually have the M16, but then I'll switch it out for the Lawton as a point making gun is no longer needed.

Five-

Guns- MP5k/Raid, M&S, Winter's Howl/ Awful Lawton

Perks- Mule Kick, Jug, QR, Speed

[MysteryMachineX]

QEDs aren't deathtraps. They can be pretty handy. Honestly, their bad effects aren't that common; good effects are much more common. Just try to actually use them whenever you get them; NOT at the end of a Round. (10% chance of extra Zombies when you do that; 0% otherwise).

exactly i dont throw them with crawler i throw them during rounds to see what it does because its fun and i usually get them if im doing easter egg

Agreed. While I do believe at least one person needs Gersch Devices on any team, if someone else already has them, why not have a little fun with QEDs?

[Tom852]

Yeah, you can love or hate the QED. But the super awesome effects are so rare, that you can basically neglect them. The most common 'good' effect is that it does an astro wave. But that is what a Gersh always does, it takes out a mass of zombies.

So I recommend the Gersh always.

Of course, before Round 30 you can mess around a bit and hope for your free perk or for your free gun upgrade, so

[TheSlushTurtle]

Like once i spawned back on round 34 and got QEDS then teddy bear and couldnt buy a gun or else id die....i throw my QEDS and get 2 mini explosions and then BAM mustang and sally :D

[Chopper]

Kino -

Juggs

QR

Speedy

Double Tap

Five -

Juggs

QR

Mule Kick

Speedy

Ascension -

Juggs

Stamina

Flopper

QR

COTD -

First 4 bought -

Juggs

Flopper

Speedy

Stamina

If I go down past say 35 or I may think about buying revive, there have been many discussions about pros and cons of revive before.

Shangr-la -

Juggs

Flopper

Quick Revive

Speedy if camping, stamina if running.

Nacht -

Nothing

Verruckt -

Juggs

Quick Revive

Speedy

Mule Kick (Thompson + MP40 with a speed weapon)

Shi No -

Juggs

Speedy

Double Tap

Quick Revive

Der Riese -

Juggs

Speedy

Quick Revive

I leave the 4th perk till at least round 20 and then if I get the Waffe I will take Mule Kick (M&S, Waffe, Various wall weapons).