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The Jin Mao Tower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_Mao_Tower

http://arch48jliang.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/jin-mao-tower-shanghai/

http://skyscrapercenter.com/shanghai/jin-mao-building/

Construction started - 1994

Completed - 1999

Official dedication was August 28, 1998, a date also chosen with the number 8 in mind. The building was fully operational in 1999.

The Jin Mao Tower; literally "Golden Prosperity Building" is an 88-story landmark skyscraper in the Lujiazui area of the Pudong district of Shanghai, People's Republic of China. It contains offices and the Shanghai Grand Hyatt hotel. Until 2007 it was the tallest building in the PRC, the fifth tallest in the world by roof height and the seventh tallest by pinnacle height.

The building's proportions revolve around the number 8, associated with prosperity in Chinese culture. The 88 floors (93 if the spire floors are counted) are divided into 16 segments, each of which is 1/8 shorter than the 16-storey base. The tower is built around an octagon-shaped concrete shear wall core surrounded by 8 exterior composite supercolumns and 8 exterior steel columns. Three sets of 8 two-story high outrigger trusses connect the columns to the core at six of the floors to provide additional support.

The building employs an advanced structural engineering system of wind and earthquake engineering which fortify it against typhoon winds of up to 200 km/h (with the top swaying by a maximum of 75 cm) and earthquakes of up to 7 on the Richter scale. The steel shafts have shear joints that act as shock absorbers to cushion the lateral forces imposed by winds and quakes, and the swimming pool on the 57th floor is said to act as a passive damper.

Along with the Oriental Pearl Tower, it is part of the Pudong skyline. Its height was surpassed on September 14, 2007 by the Shanghai World Financial Center which is next to the building. The Shanghai Tower, a 128-story building located next to these two buildings and now under construction, will be even taller.

Pudong Skyline

In-Game Image - Notice where the light is shining on the right, that is the Jin Mao Tower

Province Map

http://depts.washington.edu/chinaciv/geo/maps/provinces.htm

Province Timeline & Maps

http://depts.washington.edu/chinaciv/timeline.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China

A province (sheng), formally provincial level division, is the highest-level Chinese administrative division. There are 33 such divisions, classified as 22 provinces, four municipalities, five autonomous regions, and two special administrative regions.

Additionally, the PRC claims sovereignty over the territory administered by the Republic of China (ROC), claiming most of it as its Taiwan Province. The ROC also administers some offshore islands which form Fujian Province, ROC. These were part of an originally unified Fujian province, which since the stalemate of the Chinese Civil War in 1949 has been divided between the PRC and ROC

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Awesome stuff Pinnaz! I haven't had a chance to play through Die Rise fully yet. Glad you're on top of things here my friend.

So to confirm, this would give us a date for GLF of sometime after 1999, correct?

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Atta boy PINNAZ, well done. Proud of you

Anyway, I need someone to clarify something for me. Is the actual map called Great Leap Forward or Die Rise? I've heard both but was under the impression GLF was the true one.

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Atta boy PINNAZ, well done. Proud of you

Anyway, I need someone to clarify something for me. Is the actual map called Great Leap Forward or Die Rise? I've heard both but was under the impression GLF was the true one.

GLF is the map name.Die Rise is the mode.

Anyway good find,man.Wouldn't think of that(or search)in a million years!

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Atta boy PINNAZ, well done. Proud of you

Anyway, I need someone to clarify something for me. Is the actual map called Great Leap Forward or Die Rise? I've heard both but was under the impression GLF was the true one.

GLF is the map name.Die Rise is the mode.

Anyway good find,man.Wouldn't think of that(or search)in a million years!

Thought so, thank you.

Now, are we playing in the Jin Mao Tower or near it, or...? I apologize for being a newb, I don't have the map :P

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Now, are we playing in the Jin Mao Tower or near it, or...? I apologize for being a newb, I don't have the map :P

We are playing near it, quite near it, actually. The playable portion of the map takes place in two towers.

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Atta boy PINNAZ, well done. Proud of you

Anyway, I need someone to clarify something for me. Is the actual map called Great Leap Forward or Die Rise? I've heard both but was under the impression GLF was the true one.

Green Run, Nuketown, and Great Leap Forward are the current Black Ops II Zombie maps.

Green Run is located in the Northern Hemisphere.

Nuketown is located in Nevada, U.S.A.

Great Leap Forward is located in Province 22.

Green Run has some mini-maps: Bus Depot, Farm, Town, and Diner.

Nuketown has NO mini-maps, just like the Black Ops maps.

Great Leap Forward is made of one mini-map: Skyscraper.*

We also know that:

Green Run is located in Hanford, Washington.

Nuketown is located not far from Area 51.

Great Leap Forward is located in this place in China.

Does that clear some things up?

* = So Great Leap Forward and Skyscraper are technically the same exact place. However, the different is between calling Australia the continent and Australia the country. (This example happens to have the same name twice.)

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I saw this and thought, oh yea, this has to be it. But then I started to question. The really only SOLID item we are going off is the tower, the skyline we can't tell if it REALLY matches. So I wasn't 100% sure about it, but now on co op loading screen, it says it is in province 22.

Here is the loading screen: http://i46.tinypic.com/1zqfs7t.jpg

I then searched province 22 and it came out to be Jilin Province. It is in the north-east of china. While Shanghai used to be in Jiangsu Province, now it is a municipality with province-level status, just like Beijing, Tianjin, and Chongqing.

Shanghai

Jilin Province (Province 22)

I believe there is more to research here, I will look for any type of towers like the one in OGL. But, I am now having a hard time believing Shanghai is the location of the map.

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For proof that Jilin is the 22nd province, here you go:

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I don't believe there is a Province 22. Chinese provinces' go by name, not number. I've asked 3 Chinese guys I work with & they all said that China has 22 provinces that go by name. So far this is what I think it means, that the location of the map is within the 22 provinces.

I've come across 3 maps which are numbered, they are only numbered by people who create the document. (See below) Though I could still be wrong on this. There is definately more to find.

There is also this Banner in the game showing the Pudong Skyline in which the Jin Mao tower is located.

Grupo935's thread

http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=28259

Notice where the light is shining on the right, that is the Jin Mao Tower

Province Map

http://depts.washington.edu/chinaciv/geo/maps/provinces.htm

Province Timeline & Maps

http://depts.washington.edu/chinaciv/timeline.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China

A province (sheng), formally provincial level division, is the highest-level Chinese administrative division. There are 33 such divisions, classified as 22 provinces, four municipalities, five autonomous regions, and two special administrative regions.

Additionally, the PRC claims sovereignty over the territory administered by the Republic of China (ROC), claiming most of it as its Taiwan Province. The ROC also administers some offshore islands which form Fujian Province, ROC. These were part of an originally unified Fujian province, which since the stalemate of the Chinese Civil War in 1949 has been divided between the PRC and ROC.

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They are called Guobiao codes. Most Americans don't know how our government works. Do you think Chinese people are that different?

http://www.statoids.com/ucn.html

I'm not sure I see a very strong correlation between knowing how your government works and the names of part of your country?

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Each province has a name. Each has a number. In China, they have designated numbers. It is comparable to the US in how our states have names and the number of acquisition. Ask anyone what state 50 was. The answer is Hawaii. Ask what state 38 is. Listen to the sound of crickets chirping.

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Each province has a name. Each has a number. In China, they have designated numbers. It is comparable to the US in how our states have names and the number of acquisition. Ask anyone what state 50 was. The answer is Hawaii. Ask what state 38 is. Listen to the sound of crickets chirping.

So, you're saying that is like how it is in China, there are 22 provinces, you ask what the 22nd province is, most people know...

We are seeing different maps, I am just saying the location says Province 22 as it's location on the co op loading screen...

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I'm getting a little bit lost here. Can you explain what you think it is MMX?

There are more than 22 numbers through those charts MMX, that page you linked was one of the first pages I came across & saw it had numbers 45 & 54 & whatnot so I discredited that as meaning province 22.

Look at my previous post. There is still evidence that it is Shanghai.

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Thanks PINNAZ. I'm sorry, I overlooked that.

I'm so confused. Nuketown and Green Run illustrate the nukes going off in the '60's. Great Leap Forward illustrates it to have gone off in the future. How could such technology there be built in the '60's? Or how could it have been built after the nukes hit?

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I'm so confused. Nuketown and Green Run illustrate the nukes going off in the '60's. Great Leap Forward illustrates it to have gone off in the future. How could such technology there be built in the '60's? Or how could it have been built after the nukes hit?

Any possibility that they could've time traveled via teleportation from Richtofen? I understand there is no logical reason behind such a power, but if he has the power to rewind time (like you previously mentioned in your "Richtofen Taking/Giving Life" thread), I'm fairly certain they could have gone into the future.

Great Leap Forward has a few technological advances that we have never seen in any of the maps before.

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I'm becoming less confident on what we can take for canon as there seems to be many reused textures for important story elements.

The 2 images are identical.

But we also have this building, yet it does not feature the spire as pictured on the other 2 images?

I've used google earth & looked at other pictures of the city & cannot find a building the same within the vacinity. I originally found the Jin Mao Tower because I had already seen images of it. When I saw it in game I realised that it was a real building.

I think it's just a reused texture the same as the 'Round' buildings that are reused. I'll try to find what the round building is based off.

So what evidence can we use in our story?

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