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Nevada- Explosions and Character Links


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My 500th post! Hopefully it's going to be a good one!

"Nevada, where the men are men, and the sheep are nervous"- I was just playing a game of NML, still no better at it than I was before & still hate it with all my Mr. Green envy :mrgreen: , still can't PAP anything and I can't get enough points BUT ignore my frustrations of not being able to get one of those really nice green medals (I'll do it one day ;) ), that's not what I want to look at. Below I am going to have a few different theories about the links to Nevada with the previous and the new four characters. Some will be obvious, others may not be, enjoy!

When you join NML/Moon Dempsey will say "Home Sweet Home", 'Groom Lake' was set in Nevada as it says on the sign near the teleporter.

Let's hop back to NTZ (Nuketown Zombies), you can hear Malton in the level... hmmmm, what if Dempsey and Marlton knew each other back in Nevada, Marlton must've been there for a reason (which we do not know as of yet), why is he in particular at NTZ, none of the other 'new' characters?

Is there a possibility of Marlton & Dempsey knowing each other? The jock and the nerd roles, I'd think they'd make some hilarious quotes together ;)

Time controlling logic stops me from making a definitive answer on this one but below I think I may have more ideas on Marltons' past

I want to go one step further with this crazy idea scheme, so here's a look at Marltons' past...

Richtofen also says "Hey Dempsey, I can see your house from here, it's on FIRE!" (this quote triggered this thought).

What if we have this order of events. Marlton at Nuketown (as it was in the multi-player map on Black Ops). The Nuke falls down causing the fire- nukes fired as part of the Nevada Test Site, Shooter did a great thread on this a while back summing all this up along with locations and time frames! NTZ, Nevada Test Site, Area 51 and Project Manhatten. Shooter, Tac and EJs information was made into that great thread, I HIGHLY suggest you read it! :

The Nevada Test Site was set up on 680 square mile plot established by President Harry Truman on December 18, 1950 as the main testing grounds for America's nuclear bomb testing. The site was ideal because of it's extreme isolation, made up of mainly desert and rocky terrain. Located 60 miles outside Las Vegas, it wasn't uncommon to see the mushroom cloud after a detonation from Sin City.

Since it's establishment more than 60 years ago, there have been 928 nuclear weapons tested at the facility. The last official test was performed in 1992, and nuclear bomb testing no longer exists due to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. In it's heyday, makeshift towns and neighborhoods would even be constructed on occasion and filled with mannequins to test the power of the blast and shockwave. This can be seen in Nuketown as the town has been torn apart from the blast. It's clear that Nuketown was located on site at the NTS, but how do we know which blast it was? If we are to pinpoint a date to Nuketown, we must first determine which blast or operation was occurring at the time at the Neveda Test Site.

What if Marlton was a worker who helped test nuclear explosives, until the missile from Moon launched down and sort did its stuff.

possible time and location for Nuketown Zombies: Nevada Testing Facilty, Nevada, USA. July 1966 - June 1967

This is why he is in the bunker! To avoid the missiles, this sets the stage for NKZ. It could also explain Marlton, his connections to the story, why he's so smart and his reasoning for being in NTZ.

I want to confuse people EVEN more now :twisted: Lemme chuck 115 into the mix!

"Moon to TranZit- Maxis' Real Agenda?

A while back I did a thread looking at Maxis's real Agenda, TBH I don't trust him, if you want to read it then look at this thread:

^In that thread I look at the possibility of 115 being in the rockets that Maxis/Richtofen launched into the earth. Check it out if you haven't already!

Shooter made another nod at the idea of 115 being in the rockets that were launched:

Still not sure? While playing on Nuketown Zombies, Perk machines seem to appear out of nowhere. But they can actually be traced back to the head of the mushroom cloud, as they plummet back towards Earth. Perks-a-cola is formed from Element 115, and this could just be another nod to the fact that 115 was in the nuke.

We also know that Marlton was 'banished' from somewhere from his quotes in NTZ, check this:

-FftjaQPHRs

So, here we go! What if Marlton WAS working as part of the Nevada testing site where the rockets that they tested had hints of 115 in them? Marlton could've found out about this element 115 and have been banished from the 'group' that were testing the stuff because he was trying to stop them.

Marlton always talks about "walking disease balls"... What if he is wary about them because he knows of the effect they have on the body? What if he too looked into 115 which is the reason he was 'banished'?

This could link into this:

So we can conclude Element 115 was used during the Manhattan Project to develop the bomb for the Trinity Test. With a very minimal supply of 115, the blast was huge, and the test seemed to be a success. But the radiation from the element following the blast does what it does best, and reanimates some of the deceased locals in the surrounding area. This is how the Americans first became aware of "zombies".

Which could also link into how Marlton feels about zombies!

In Five's cutscene, JFK doesn't act suprised when he sees a zombie. He was already aware of the existance of zombies, from the Trinity Test.

The use of Element 115 ceased after that test, and went to other uses at the Pentagon and Area 51. But there was still one last test with Element 115, during Operation Latchkey. This is the bomb denoted at Nuketown Zombies that we discussed earlier, and thus why the crater was such a massive size. It's clear a moderate amount of 115 was used in this blast. Extended radiation was bound to occur after the blast as well.

If this is right about Marlton then he along with Samuel and Misty/Abigail, all have 'purposes' in the story, linking in with the original 4s story in some way. The only person I can't see anyone getting is Russ, he can't be trusted IMO BUT that's for another thread!

Even if the timeline of the events were wrong (if the timeline is in the present day or away from the 1960s) then this information could well still be relevant to this mysterious character we know as Marlton.

Thanks to Shooter for the thread with that information, as you could probably tell it really did help in explaining and writing this thread and I wouldn't have been able to have done it without that information!

Thanks for reading! Leave ideas/comments/anything else!

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bbobs, awesome thread. I've been super intrigued at the possible connections between the O4 and the N4 and this certainly gives me a lot think about.

so you're saying that Marlton is from the same time zone as Dempsey? What about his watch? It looks pretty futuristic.

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Thanks guys!

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so you're saying that Marlton is from the same time zone as Dempsey? What about his watch? It looks pretty futuristic.

It could well be a possibility that Marlton & Dempsey do know each other, even if it isn't personally.

The spoiler above shows Nevada's population density, most people live in one area, if Dempsey & Marlton happened to live in an area where there were less people then it could be a possibility that they knew each-other some how. Although because of the whole time-travelling thing & teleporting madness that is currently happening this part is only a possibility and I can't find any hard evidence other than quotes to back it up

As for the watch I found something about it on the Activision forums while searching around for some quotes to listen to:

http://www.callofduty.com/thread/200584168

They say it is a Casino Calculator Watch, similar to this:

Which sort of looks like Marlton's (there are loads of different designs based on this concept). It started making an appearance in the 1970s then became slightly bigger between the 1980s but since mobiles are now around they aren't seen as much. They look pretty cool! Although some can be very costly, some go for around £50 but some are collectible and go for a lot higher (into the hundreds and some thousands!).

The watch could also be a further push at showing us that he is an extremely smart character that is possibly hiding more than he is letting on, a link to the time setting of TranZit (yet again 1970s could be around the time of TranZit, if Shooter was right about NTZ being towards the end of the 1960s then this could still be possible happen), or it could be part of an even bigger scheme e.g. time travel has been mentioned in videos like this:

Link to place: http://youtu.be/x5VrzI46gVA?t=28s

Or video on site(Go to 28s):

x5VrzI46gVA

Yet again, time travel is a pain! It confuses things! :lol:

What's very interesting is that this watch has the capability of "dual time" which basically keeps track of multiple times in different time zones as represented by the DT on the watch booklet and on Marlton's watch as well.

It can also show different times from different time zones which could mean something, although TBH I'm not too sure... the watch is tricky and could mean quite a lot of things...

Hope that (in some way, shape or form) answered your questions :D Thanks for you comments, I appreciate them!

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Really great thread! I am really interested in these new characters and this certainly gives me something to ponder. Since day 1 I have wondered what their role in all of this is and how they relate to what we have already seen. Good job on your theory and for putting it in such a way that gives it validity. True or not, YOU believe it. I think we often forget that perhaps there isn't a single explanation for everything and maybe sometimes, just sometimes, the devs will leave it open for interpretation by individuals and not make it so cut and dry. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work!

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