The Original 3 Are On Earth [THEORY]

[TheNathanNS]

Yes I do mean 3, as Richtofen is on the Moon in the MPD and Samantha isn't a part of the O4 as she's been on the team for one map.

I was playing Moon the other day when I remembered something many people are forgetting.

After "The Big Bang" the original 4 can travel back to Earth. The teleporter still works.

There is a [small] chance the group went back to Earth using the teleporters to avoid being stuck in outer space forever. Hence Richtofen's quotes stating he missed them, which he says on Green Run. OK That may mean they're dead or they [somehow] escaped Richtofen's sight.

Now, I know some people claim you can see the Earth when you teleport back after the EE. I cannot remember where, but someone said Treyarch officially stated it was a minor mistake on their part. Plus, if Area 51 did break away from Earth, how come we don't see a huge chunk flying in the air on round 25 of Nuketown? Also if it did break away from the Earth, how come the characters can still breathe without a the helmet?

So where are they now? Obviously no one knows. They could be at Area 51 or maybe near TranZit. Or maybe Richtofen has teleported them to a different location, as he did with the new 4. Or dead. This is all speculation. We won't know until/if Treyarch put a EE about them. (I don't mean Weasel's Nikolai quote either)

So yeah, that's my first theory regarding Zombies anyway. I hope you understood it and please give your feedback.

[InfestLithium]

I'm glad you made the connection with them still accessing Area 51. So many people disregarded that and presumed they were stranded on the Moon. I understand that walking in a blown-up world with a hoard of the undead isn't exactly the safest option, but the fact remains that they still have entry to Earth.

Nothing can escape Richtofen's sight. His quote about missing them refers to him not only abandoning his human body, but also betraying the ones who [kind of] entrusted him. Where have they gone, and what have they been doing since that event? We're only prepared to find out in possibly the next (or last) DLC.

[TheNathanNS]

Upon futher thinking, regarding Richtofen's quotes, could just mean that he (slightly) misses being with them. Face it, spending forever, alone in a MPD isn't exactly the best way to live.

What I find weird as well is that Dr Maxis would have obviously been more... persuading with the new group if Samantha did die, he probably would have mentioned it as some people wouldn't take too kindly to someone killing a little girl.

(Yet, at time of Moon Samantha is around 80, technically, born late 1930's died 2025)

I feel Ludvig Maxis knows where the Original Group are. He does communicate with the originals once Richtofen gains control, like he does with the new group.

On a slightly different note, I have a strong feeling that if we do Maxis' EE's we will re-incarnate him back into human form.

[Stop Mocking Me0]

I'm still waiting on the N4 to figure out they died when the nukes hit and that marelton, misty, Samule, and russman are all the body's richtofen gave them when they used the teleporter while he was in control...

Samule----> Samanthia (links with voices)

Russman---> Nikolai (Tough and brute)

Marelton----> takeo (Smart and neutrally likes the American)

Misty-----> Tank (Richtofen made tank a girl because that's how he sees Tank, likes takeo (not sexually but richtofen imagines it as such) )

I'm not saying those four charracters never existed, I'm just saying their physical body's are now being controled by the O4's life force...

Of course this is all just a theory but entirely (however unlikely) possible... We've seen crazier things... But imagine how much of a shock that would be! :lol:

[TheNathanNS]

I'm still waiting on the N4 to figure out they died when the nukes hit and that marelton, misty, Samule, and russman are all the body's richtofen gave them when they used the teleporter while he was in control...

Samule----> Samanthia (links with voices)

Russman---> Nikolai (Tough and brute)

Marelton----> takeo (Smart and neutrally likes the American)

Misty-----> Tank (Richtofen made tank a girl because that's how he sees Tank, likes takeo (not sexually but richtofen imagines it as such) )

I'm not saying those four charracters never existed, I'm just saying their physical body's are now being controled by the O4's life force...

Of course this is all just a theory but entirely (however unlikely) possible... We've seen crazier things... But imagine how much of a shock that would be!

Good theory, but Takeo didn't like or respect Dempsey. Dempsey respected Takeo, complimenting him on kills and all that, but Takeo never returned the respect, a good example is on a WAW Zombie map, where if Takeo has a empty weapon he'll say "This weapon is like Dempsey's head. Empty. haha"

The original group on likes and hates:

Dempsey liked Takeo and hated Richtofen

Nikolai liked Dempsey and hated Takeo

Takeo liked Richtofen and hated Nikolai

Richtofen liked Nikolai and hated Dempsey.

As I posted in a topic in the Die Rise section, David Vonderhaar tweeted about how he is going to let the zombie fans decide the new crew's fate. I should imagine this will be like Mob of the Dead, will they live or die?

But, if this is for the next DLC, Who's store for DLC 4? The old crew? CIA/CDC? JFK? Weasel?

I seriously don't want the CIA/CDC back. I would if they spoke every now and then. AI don't mean grunts either. ._.

[Stop Mocking Me0]

They only seem to bring in the CIA and CDC for sub-modes like greif and survival, Same with the guards and prisoners....

If we do deside the fate of the N4 already, surely we won't be offered a real option....

If we send them to different places how will we know where to start in the 4th zombie game? Unless...

Unless choosing a side unlocks a different survival map....

Like doing richtofen's side brings you back so you can play greif and survival at Der reise, and maxis would rewards you with turned and greif at Verrućt...

But the fate of the crews must not be different, because then the next game cant start off propperly...

I feel like I should make some sub-game map predictions now....

[MysteryMachineX]

I hope you're right. However, I would discourage the use of "original three". I believe Samantha has now earned title to being part of the "original four". The only problem with using the teleporter is that literally No Man's Land was the MOST overrun place ever. There's evidence to suggest that Americans just quarantined the place for years instead of dealing with it.

[TheNathanNS]

They only seem to bring in the CIA and CDC for sub-modes like greif and survival, Same with the guards and prisoners....

If we do deside the fate of the N4 already, surely we won't be offered a real option....

I agree with your post, however I feel the Prisoners VS the Prison Guards is a lot more understanding than the CIA VS the CDC.

"The New Crew's Fate" could mean a varity of things. Where do they go? Do they die? Do they go back in time? Does one of them gain control? But we'll probably see them again. Unless the 4th DLC involves blowing up the Earth again.

Also I don't really like the idea of being rewarded with Verruckt/Der Riese though, I feel they should be a micro-transaction maps, like Nuketown 2025 and Nuketown Zombies were.

What I would love though is for the last EE to have an effect on every map.

I hope you're right. However, I would discourage the use of "original three". I believe Samantha has now earned title to being part of the "original four". The only problem with using the teleporter is that literally No Man's Land was the MOST overrun place ever. There's evidence to suggest that Americans just quarantined the place for years instead of dealing with it.

You've got to think though if your right about the U.S Government just quarantined the place, it may be the reason for the events of "Five". Meaning we didn't see any American Zombies until that map.

If people want me to refer to the group as the Original 4, I'm cool with it. It's just when people think Richtofen is on the Moon, still fighting zombies.

[DeathBringerZen]

Now, I know some people claim you can see the Earth when you teleport back after the EE. I cannot remember where, but someone said Treyarch officially stated it was a minor mistake on their part. Plus, if Area 51 did break away from Earth, how come we don't see a huge chunk flying in the air on round 25 of Nuketown? Also if it did break away from the Earth, how come the characters can still breathe without a the helmet?

Yeah, I still cannot understand why people think it is possible for Area 51 to be on a floating chuck on Earth, broken free from the planet after the missile strike, just because we can see earth behind the facility.

For a start, the Earth model is the same size and diameter as the Earth we see on the Moon, which would mean we would need to be the same distance on Area 51 to Earth as we would be on the Moon. This would guarantee we would be outside of the Earths atmosphere, and thus, we would not have the Orange/Red glow to the skyline. Infact, our skyline would be space itself.

[Stop Mocking Me0]

Well remember, the nukes didn't hit the earth until after nuketown ended...

[TheNathanNS]

Well remember, the nukes didn't hit the earth until after nuketown ended...

Slight mistake on my side there, I remembered that hours after I made the topic.

Then again. the missles will hit on round 1 so I don't think the missiles are that huge to the Nuketown part of the zombies story.