A Fresh Perspective, Possiable Locations Thread

[AlphaSnake]

This thread is due for a major update since we have moved on quite a bit and I have alot more knowlegde about Nazis zombies than I did when I wrote this when I first joined...

So watch this space...

The Original Post:-

Map pack 4 is just not coming people, I know it hurts to hear it, but it seems to be true for the most part.

Well, Nazi Zombies was a late addition to WAW, but Treyarch had accidently filled a massive niche in the gaming industry??? What...?

Surival Horror, I was disapointed by resident evils 4 & 5 (No Classic Zombies anywhere here). I'm positive I'm not the only one with this opinion.

So for me, Treyarchs little gem fills this gap very well indeed, with the popularity of the Zombie DLCs reaching epic proporsions, Treyarch will have quickly cottoned on to the fact that they have a diamond in the rough.

So what am I saying I hear you screaming at the screen.

Nazi Zombies will not be returning in map pack form, I believe there is a Map pack 4 containing the Uranverein map, I believe the youtube video to be geniue. So, as not to be part of the FAKE crowd, I have read his comments/replies and read the description to give him the benefit of the doubt. It would seem that he was hacking one of Treyarchs servers, while do so he found and downloaded an un-released map pack update containing the 5th Nazi zombie map Uranverein, plus 3 other Multi-player maps for the main game. However it seems to have been put on hold, probably as people have stated, to avoid directly competing with Infinity Wards Modern-warfare 2, CoD7-Black ops will also not be getting Zombies either. I believe this was confirmed by a Treyarch developer, It will have something unique to the game itself, like Nazi Zombies or the Spec Ops mode for MW2.

I know many that play Nazi zombies wouldn't touch the Multi-player modes with a 20ft barge pole and Vice-versa, which has happened to myself, I played WAW MP which I enjoyed greatly, I then moved on to MW2 and after many months of good campaign levels, an okayish Spec-ops mode & a badly flawed & glitchy Multi-player mode, have now migrated back to WAW & Nazi Zombies as many others have too. So this shows that the game is truely divided in which mode people choose to play, I paid for the new releases just for Nazi zombies maps, others have said the same things. This is where a new whole independant Nazi Zombie title comes in. Treyarch will create this, they are after all "A bit nuts about Nazi Zombies" the Xbox Video again. So, I say why would Treyarch do another map pack for an aging game, when you can do a whole game entirely dedicated to the Nazi Zombie Story line, this game would sell like hot cakes, all the "old skool" Resident Evil fans who shuned the latest 2 installments of the series can be assimilated into the Nazi Zombie fanfare pretty much immediately, this is by no means proven, but make a lot of sense to me.

Reasons why I think this will happen to Nazi Zombies.

Numero uno would be "they are nuts about Nazi Zombies".

Next would be of course MONEY£$£$, 1 million map packs at £7.99 or 1 million games at £39.99 you do the math, thats alotta dosh to be had at, don't you agree.

Of course they will do it for the Fans that have supported them, WON'T YOU TREYARCH?? 8-) :twisted:

Treyarchs massive team that work day and night on nazi zombies (inside treyarch xbox video remember) What the hell are they working on surely they don't need all that just for a couple of map packs, suggests to me that some thing bigger is in the works.

The fact that the codes say they will return.

The fact that if it is a map pack, it taking a F***ing long time to make, suggesting multiple maps to me.

Der Reise shows us via audio and visual clues that there is at least 6 possiable new maps.

The Locations

France, Paris, the Eiffel tower

As seen on the French chipboard. More experiments in a German occupied paris, perhaps a secret base under the Tower using it as the mentioned larger conduit.

England, Beachy head, leading to Stone-henge as a larger conduit

Maybe? Reminds me of the Flytrap. The light house in the picture on the English chipboard look a lot like Beachy head Lighthouse to me, what do you think?:-

USA, Pennsylvaina The Chicora Event, Nevada, Area 51/Groomlake Millitary facility

The Chicora In 1938 scores of eyewitnesses observed a huge fireball streaking over western Pennsylvania and making an explosive roar. This meteorite may have struck a cow as it fell into a field. The original meteor, before partially disintegrating, may have weighed 510 tons! Possiably containing the element 115 which the US government promptly moved to the Groomlake site, as stated in the radio transmission in Der Reise. The Germans no doubt had agents in the USA, as the radio clearly tells us in Der Reise, plus the Germans weren't afraid to venture into enemy territory, think Indiana Jones crystal skulls and how the Russians aggressivley invaded the Nevada facilty for the Alien corpse, put those soldiers in Nazi ss uniforms and hey, presto one step closer to nazi zombies in Groomlake, which of course later became what conspiracy theorists call Area 51.

Russia, Tunguska

Very similar event to that of the Shin no numa meteor, and the date referring to another event again very similar in Pennsylvaina USA, The Chicora In 1938. The Tunguska Event, or Tunguska explosion, was a powerful explosion that occurred not far from the Podkamennaya Lower Stony Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai in Russia, at 0 hours 13 minutes 35 seconds Greenwich Mean Time around 07:14 local time on June 30, 1908! It is commonly believed to have been caused by the air burst of a large meteoroid or comet fragment at an altitude of 5–10 kilometres (3.1–6.2 mi) above the Earth's surface. Different studies have yielded varying estimates of the object's size, with general agreement that it was a few tens of metres across. Possiably containing the element 115 which the Russian government promptly moved to a unknown Millitary base. More reseach is need to pin point the Russian facillity.

Unknown Location, Group 935 Facility Illuminati base, NeuSchwabanland, Antarctic Maybe?

This is my weakest theory regarding Group 936, can't remember where I saw or heard this part, but I'm 100% sure I did hear about Group 936, I think it was in Illuminati code, and said something along the lines of "Group936 must not be exposed, at all costs" can anyone confirm this line? Group 935 is based at Der Reise which we know, however I believe the 935 project split into two separate Groups, 935 focused on getting the Vril working, and a by product of these experiments was the zombie outbreak, any reseacher or general would see this side effect as a potential weapon, a fire and forget weapon that you drop over enemy lines to annihilate the local population with minor infastructer damage. This is where Experiment 935 starts to go wrong as we have witnessed in Der Reise. However where did the Vril craft go? My best guess is they relocated to the Antarctic Nazi base, NeuSchwabanland. Please read up on this as it was very real indeed, the Americans sent a massive fleet to this base only to be turn back in a most humilliating fashion, the whole thing smells like a cover up, do your home work and you will see as I see.

Germany,Uranverein Facility

The German nuclear energy project in Nazi Germany, informally known as the Uranverein (Uranium Club), began in April 1939, just months after the discovery of nuclear fission in January 1939. The first effort ended in months, but the second effort began under the auspices of the German Army Ordnance Office on the day World War II began, 1 September 1939. The program eventually expanded into the following main efforts: the Uranmaschine (nuclear reactor), uranium and heavy water production, and uranium isotope separation. The zenith of the effort came when it was realized that nuclear fission would not contribute significantly to ending the war. In January 1942, the Army Ordnance Office turned the program over to the Reich Research Council, but continued to fund the program. At this time, the program split up between nine major institutes where the directors dominated the research and set their own objectives. At that time, the number of scientists working on applied nuclear fission began to diminish, with many applying their talents to more pressing war-time demands.

The most influential people in the Uranverein were Kurt Diebner, Abraham Esau, Walther Gerlach, and Erich Schumann; Schumann was one of the most powerful and influential physicists in Germany. Diebner, throughout the life of the nuclear energy project, had more control over nuclear fission research than did Walther Bothe, Klaus Clusius, Otto Hahn, Paul Harteck, or Werner Heisenberg. Abraham Esau was appointed as Hermann Göring’s plenipotentiary for nuclear physics research in December 1942; Walther Gerlach succeeded him in December 1943.

Politicization of the German academia under the National Socialist regime had driven many physicists and mathematicians out of Germany as early as 1933. Those of Jewish heritage who did not leave were quickly purged from German institutions, further decimating the academia. The politicization and purges, along with the demands for armed manpower, in time would all but eliminate a generation of physicists.

At the end of the war, the Allied powers competed to obtain surviving components of the nuclear industry (personnel, facilities, and materiel), as they did with the V-2 program.

Near Belarus, Ludwigsdorf village

Evidence:- German corkboard top left corner.

News paper cliping text translated "Die Bienen sind von ludwigsdorf verschwunden"

To "The bees disappeared from Ludwig village"

Ludwig is Maxis's forename as seen on the name plate near the bloody teddy paw print in Z-C. Coincidence? Perhaps, or maybe theres more to it.

Research on the location also reveals a possiable concentration camp near by.

Maybe Maxis had other facilities with Teleporters for Human testing not to far away? Makes you wonder what else he was up to.

Something bad always happens if the Bees start disappearing.

The castle 0f Wewelsburg 1603, a Renaissance castle located in the northwest of North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Linked to GKNOVA6. More info will be added as it is discovered.

Summary:-

Ask yourself this, How many zombie outbreaks of this nature have been contained?

I leave it to you to decide if what I have said here has any merit.

Helpful hints, Ideas & correction to the information here is most welcome and will be added and adjusted as and when I see it.

Thanks again for taking the time to read & respond here.

Regards Snake.

[Camo Wildcat]

sorry. correction: group 935*

good research but i dont agree with some of it.

[goblue418]

i dont think mp4 is coming bc they said that they are done releasing new material for W@W. I also dont think a nazi zombie game is coming anytime soon bc they have said on numerous occasions they are completely focused on Black Ops. Maybe in 2 or 3 years we will have a full on zombie game *hopes and prays*

[Guest Strwrsbob]

That Was a really great way of thinking there, I enjoyed the read, Reminds of the old times, (AKA last summer ;0) It's really great to see you write all that up, I throughly enjoyed it!

[Guest Hockney]

can someone post a link to this "video" of MP4?

[Guest Deadshock]

Heres the supposed "proof" but im pretty sure it was proven to be a fake last summer on the old forum when the rumors about MP4 were flying around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eg-fJFCKv4

As for my opinion as much as I would like to see a nazi zombie game, i don't think that it would be even announced until at least 6 months after the release of Black Ops due to Treyarch putting all their efforts into BO. But I would still like to see zombies in Black Ops because its just the right thing to do.

p.s. welcome to the community Alphasnake

[Guest Shoreyo]

Are you sure your not psychic (sorry for the terrible spelling there )? i swear i was thinking the same thing only yesterday and all those new maps and reasons for annother zombies i know i have thought of at one point or the other [brains] this is great and i wish it was true, not saying that it isn't though if treyarch dont say it isnt, them i hope...

[Guest AlphaSnake]

Thanks for the comments & welcome guys.

If Treyarch can't see what they have, then more fool them. Even as a add-on, Nazi Zombies tops the chart for surival horror Zombies games, and I don't see the genre getting any smaller. Since the remakes of the old films, Zombies have gone from strength to strenght. Resident evil pales in comparison to heart pound action in WAW NZ. Its the very definition of survival horror.

Don't believe for a second that Treyarch can't put this out the same time as black ops, they say in the xbox video that "they are always working on multiple games all the time" hint hint, nudge, wink, Could be an easter egg right there...

Plus, all the ground work has been done. Solid story, twisting plot, more mysteries than you can throw a bowie knife at. Using the engine for black ops and lots of ideas for levels, with the potential for its own updates and map packs.

This is a guaranteed money maker for anyone involved.

My last thought is, why the hell haven't they figured this out for themselves yet? OR HAVE THEY????

Also think merchandising £$£$, would you buy a perk-a-cola? I know I would.

Open your mind to the possiabilities.

Think Film rights.

Regards Alpha13snake.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

I think I've just found another possiable location:-

In this Board, In the bottom left corner is a map with the area circled in red. As far as I can tell it is south western england, Lands ends way.

Here magnified:-

After comparing maps I am 100% sure this points to Dartmoor. At first I thought it pointed to the forest, but I then found this place:-

Looks familiar some how doesn't it? It is Dartmoor prison. Would make an intereting location for an event of somekind.

Also, possiable a new trap for this location from the English corkboard, the image is partially obscured, but you can make it out:-

It resembles the God trap from Indiana Jones and the last crusade, at the end, the chap who loses his head, I think it should be called "The Penitent", What do you guys think?

Another trap on the same board:-

Looks like the electric fences except that the current flows horizontally.

Lastly check this out:-

Could be a diagram of the Die Glocke or maybe another trap design or the Pack-A-Punch/Teleporter designs, I'm open to suggestions, this is from the German corkboard.

Hope you enjoy the pictures, and I hope this has brought new information to light.

Regards Alpha13snake.

[Guest WhosOnFirst]

Map locations are

http://bit.ly/dkKm8k

Kagawa Prefecture, Japan.

Wroc?aw, Poland formerly Breslau, Germany.

Outer Thames Estuary, England.

Tunguska, Russia ? Not sure about this one though.

These are all in referance to the small maps shown on the pinboard.

Good work Alpha, keep it up.

PS found this texture for the sawblde trap in the DR PC files.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

Good find with the saw blade there. Wow, maybe they have already complete other maps. I don't think that they would just leave that file in by accident.

As we know not all the easter eggs are in the actual level, maybe this was one for the pc crowd.

My top post needs to be updated, I have some new possiable locations, would like to add info about the existing maps and there locations too.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

Location:-

Ludwig village leading to the Gross-Rosen concentration camp in wiki.

Evidence:- German corkboard top left corner.

News paper cliping text translated "Die Bienen sind von ludwigsdorf verschwunden"

To "The bees disappeared from Ludwig village"

Ludwig is Maxis's forename as seen on the name plate near the bloody teddy paw print in Z-C. Coincidence? Perhaps, or maybe theres more to it.

Research on the location also reveals a possiable concentration camp near by.

Maybe Maxis had other facilities with Teleporters for Human testing not to far away? Makes you wonder what else he was up to.

Something bad has always happened if the Bees start disappearing.

Let me know what you think guys & gals.

Regards Alpha Snake.

Sorry for another double post, I've been dying to get this one typed up.

Hope you enjoy. ;)

[Guest AlphaSnake]

New location added:-

The castle 0f Wewelsburg 1603, a Renaissance castle located in the northwest of North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Linked to GKNOVA6.

Peace. :)

[Guest vdeh1997]

wow great info +1

[Guest GermanZombiefreak]

New location added:-

The castle 0f Wewelsburg 1603, a Renaissance castle located in the northwest of North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Linked to GKNOVA6.

Peace.

[spoiler:y85oth7j][/spoiler:y85oth7j]

yeah dude,

as mentioned im my other thread I have visited that castle this friday! NO JOKE!

Its only a few miles away from my hometown (I live in germany) All I can say is that the location is absoloutly fascinating and freaky. Its filled with many occult symbols, and black suns (i have seen three of them). The guy from the museum told me, that a lot of symbols have been destroyed at the end of the war by the sovjets. so today they are missing.

As you know the Wewelsburg was the headquater of the SS. The leaders of the SS called it the new center of the world.

Maybe in BO we will return to castle Wewelsburg as a soviet alliance or something to clear the zombie problem?

By the Way: you did a very good research [+1]

[Guest XPS9686]

how where u dissapointed with RE4? that was like the best game for Gamecube!!! but you make some real great points...plus why would they make a map pack THIS late for a game that came out idk how long ago

[Guest shilo25]

Great post man. Lotta good locations Id like to see in Black Ops. I wonder if they would ever do a location where it is open like a multiplayer map but bigger like a city block. Imagine the crazy zombie chases, new traps, and all the easter eggs they could put in it. Also i hope Black Ops ships originally with 3 or 4 maps since I heard Raven Games are doing all the DLC.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

how where u dissapointed with RE4? that was like the best game for Gamecube!!! but you make some real great points...plus why would they make a map pack THIS late for a game that came out idk how long ago

It didn't feel like the game I fell in love with.

It was a good game, but not what I was looking for in a RE game.

Thanks for the comments and those yummy brains... [brains]

Regards Snake.

[Guest skinny jay]

this is the one i found a posted about in chat when i was lookin into the whole light house deal.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

New Idea:-

Nazi zombies on the moon:-

This would be perfect for a new Black Ops Nazi zombie location, yes I said Nazis...

>>Ironsky<<

Ironsky Backstory

So it would go down like this:-

The Nazis complete Die Glocke, they take the prototype Vril to the New Swabia (Neuschwabenland) Nazi secret Antarctica base. They build a fleet of Vril and leave for the dark side of the moon. There as in the trailer posted above they draw their plans for conquest using advanced weapons (DG/Ray gun type) Bio weapons (Zombies) Chemical weapons (Nova Gas) and Nuclear weapons.

As it was during the coldwar, this also fits nicely with the whole space race situation.

Isn't there a level called 'Launch' in Black Ops?

Why did America & Russia want to get to the moon so bad?

Was it to steal the advanced technologies from the Schwarze Sonne Empire moon base and to stop the Nazis once and for all?

They could easily have had SOG members going to the moon on the Apollo missions to fight Nazi zombie armies on the darkside of the moon.

After all everything we know is a lie...

How epic would it be fighting a horde of zombies in a dome on the moon...

Regards Alpha.

P.s. Thanks for the bump Carbon, and to all who have commented. 8-)

[Guest AlphaSnake]

With all thats happened, I will be doing a rewrite on this topic...

Oh & BUMP... 8-) I hope the newer members enjoy the read.

Regards Alpha Snake.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

[center:nwfn3jyc]Russia, Tunguska Event, Leading To Ascension

Very similar event to that of the Shin no numa meteor, and the date referring to another event again very similar in Pennsylvaina USA, The Chicora In 1938. The Tunguska Event, or Tunguska explosion, was a powerful explosion that occurred not far from the Podkamennaya Lower Stony Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai in Russia, at 0 hours 13 minutes 35 seconds Greenwich Mean Time around 07:14 local time on June 30, 1908! It is commonly believed to have been caused by the air burst of a large meteoroid or comet fragment at an altitude of 5–10 kilometres (3.1–6.2 mi) above the Earth's surface. Different studies have yielded varying estimates of the object's size, with general agreement that it was a few tens of metres across. Possiably containing the element 115 which the Russian government promptly moved to a unknown Millitary base at the time. More reseach is need to pin point the Russian facillity now confirmed to be called "Ascension" aka "Launch".

I wrote a short story explaining the happenings of the Tunguska event:-

The League of Death:- Origins Of 115

Regards Snake.[/center:nwfn3jyc]

[Guest AlphaSnake]

Manhattan Down Zombie map, Los Alamos County, New Mexico, United States:

This is supported by the Letters found in Kino as a future Location/situation.

In 1934, German scientists discovered nuclear fission, the splitting of an atom of uranium into two elements. If fission became a chain reaction, the energy of the nucleus of the uranium atom might be released. A very large number of atoms split very quickly might result in a massive explosion (Like in the GKNOVA6 Transmissions).

Five years later, Albert Einstein wrote a letter to President Roosevelt describing the potential power of a nuclear bomb. Einstein was a German-born Jewish scientist who left Europe shortly before Hitler came to power. Einstein opposed the use of nuclear weapons, but he feared what might happen to the world if Germany discovered the technology before America.

American military leaders decided they needed to build a laboratory to create a nuclear weapon. They searched for a location at least 200 miles from a coastline or international border. The site needed to be sparsely populated because an accident might cause horrendous damage. They settled on a secluded school for boys in the desert land of Los Alamos, New Mexico. Robert Oppenheimer led a group of almost 6000 scientists in what became known as the top secret Manhattan Project.

My money is on an incident at Los Alamos after the a nuclear test or maybe that was a cover for another experiment gone wrong, say a Die Glocke explosion, or a crashed Vril craft. Maybe a nuke with element 115 in the core?!

This fits with the GKNOVA6 Transmission of a nuclear reaction. Maybe they were trying for a Zombie Nuke, Fire & blast damage plus a side helping of Zombie infections... A type of ZWMD!!!

So could this be the infamous Uranverein map location, we thought it may have been in Germany but it seems the Uranium club had a change of location due to Hitlers rise to power.

So zombies in an experimental nuclear base...

The possibilities are endless.

Let me know what you lot think.

Regards Snake.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

Could the Manhattan Down Reference be located on the map known as Radiation:

Radiation

Could this be in America? Could this be the Infamous Uranverein location?

Think about how the map contains two traps already, the button that activates the trap doors in the center and the conveyor belt of doom...

Not to mention that Radiation is a Uranium processing plant. 8-)

Regards Snake.

[Guest AlphaSnake]

Bump for the home page...

Read my last posts they have been edited up a little.

Regards Snake.