The Giant: A Sequel to Origins

[ETEl2NAL407]

That is what I'm talking about. That radio log gives us a point in time because this trailer contains the real-time event of that radio log.

[BlackOpsTiger]

I have a strange suspicion that the "Zombie Blood" vials that Richtofen is carrying play a larger role.

In the trailer Takeo says "The future hangs by a thread, you must awaken the test subjects" but then you hear the undead rushing towards them and Richtofen activating the teleporter and causing the Origins characters to arrive and "change history" as Nikolai says.

 

What test subjects could Takeo have been referring to?

Did Richtofen perfect his mind-kontrol program over his test subjects.

What are the origin characters doing at Der Riese?

Are they trying to stop the original Richtofen from gathering the items he needed to take control on the Moon? Or are they there with the vials of zombie blood to manufacture some sort of "cure", after all we know that the zombie blood makes you "invisible" to these zombies.

[Matuzz]

I have a strange suspicion that the "Zombie Blood" vials that Richtofen is carrying play a larger role.

In the trailer Takeo says "The future hangs by a thread, you must awaken the test subjects" but then you hear the undead rushing towards them and Richtofen activating the teleporter and causing the Origins characters to arrive and "change history" as Nikolai says.

 

What test subjects could Takeo have been referring to?

Did Richtofen perfect his mind-kontrol program over his test subjects.

What are the origin characters doing at Der Riese?

Are they trying to stop the original Richtofen from gathering the items he needed to take control on the Moon? Or are they there with the vials of zombie blood to manufacture some sort of "cure", after all we know that the zombie blood makes you "invisible" to these zombies.

The vials have blood of the MotD guys.

The test subjects that should be aweken most likely are the non Origins Tank, Nikolai and Takeo who still are in Siberia.

It seems in the end of Origins Samantha / Maxis sent them back to the "origins" of the whole mess so Der Riese.

We are in point where Maxis and Samantha were teleported. But now Richtofen is dead so he can't go hunting the relics in order to make himself the god he wants to be by switching bodies with Samantha. I believe next step is to prevent the destrcution of Earth and the removing Vril-ya from Earth.

You see when the Earth was blown up a rift in time was created, Maxis and Richtofen tried to mend the rift so that the actual evil creatures from Agartha (Vril-ya) could not access the Earth. But they did and got into 1930's when Alcatraz takes place. The new Shadows of Evil map continues where MotD was left off. A world which is ruled by Vril-ya creatures. Their motives are unknown but they seem to haunt people who have sinned.

Only killing Richtofen isn't enough to stop them because they were inserted to the world in point that is before Der RIese and the time when the Origins crew was teleported in there.

[ETEl2NAL407]

Nice theory. Seems very accurate. One issue though...

Zombie eye color.

Should be:

Yellow=Samantha

Blue=Richtofen

Red=Vril-Ya

I know in The Giant trailer we see yellow and so we should see red for Shadows of Evil, right? I'm thinking the trailer has those as yellow. Why? If SoE is the continuation of MotD, why are the zombie eyes yellow?

 

[Matuzz]

Good points and it's a bit weird about the eyes.

Both Nacht Der Untoten and Verruckt take place before Samantha is teleported and their eyes are yellow. When Samantha was in control their eyes remained yellow. It's been speculated that the yellow is just the natural state of the zombie eye color. When Richtofen got into control they turned blue perhaps referring to the aryan ideal of blue eyes.

MotD was definetly the Vril-ya/Devil/Evil what ever anybody wants to call it in control and the eyes were red and I honestly have no idea why they eyes are yellow again in the SoE. Maybe because when there is no control they were yellow then once the Vril-ya got full control they turned to their most pure evil state red that was in 1930's and now SoE takes place in the 40's so maybe it's after Der Riese and Samantha got stuck on the Pyramid (again) so she basically overlapped the Vril-ya and turned the eyes back to yellow? It could be they are now controlled by both Vril-ya (Shadow Man) but also by Samantha who is sort of interfering.

[ETEl2NAL407]

It could explain the gumball machines. Maybe Samantha is helping this group defeat their 'manifest sins' as a way to weaken the Vril-Ya/Great Evil. If so it must be the Origins Samantha in order to keep the former G935 timeline whole. 

This still bugs me that there are essentially 2 Samanthas in control at the same time, or at least that is an inevitability now. Hopefully more will revealed when we actually play.

[Matuzz]

Also those Agartha Black Sun knights had white eye color.

[ETEl2NAL407]

Four colors is too much!!!

 

[Guest]

Red= Vril Ya. Pffffft XD yeah the vril control all in the story, they moved the pyramids from mars to Shangri La, they created the box, perks and the MPD!!!!! No, if you actually read the power of the coming race the vril do not pertain to anything like how you see them, they are not evil or sinister in anyway they are just an advanced subterranean species that got mixed up into zombies because of influence, not because they are an omnipotent race who control every move in zombies like a chess game.

[Matuzz]

Red= Vril Ya. Pffffft XD yeah the vril control all in the story, they moved the pyramids from mars to Shangri La, they created the box, perks and the MPD!!!!! No, if you actually read the power of the coming race the vril do not pertain to anything like how you see them, they are not evil or sinister in anyway they are just an advanced subterranean species that got mixed up into zombies because of influence, not because they are an omnipotent race who control every move in zombies like a chess game.

The thing is the Zombies story has never followed the strict ideas of mythology behind it's stroy. In the game's Nazi Zombie world the Vril-ya are evil in my opinion. They live in Agartha Samantha became in contact with them as she entered the MPD and turned from little innocent girl (as said in Origins achievement) into a demonic monster toying with people and wanting them to suffer and die.

Samantha directly says that she is in contact with MUCH more evil froce behind the MPD the VRIL pyramid itself.

https://youtu.be/cNcCedQNaFE?t=11m30s

If you still think that Vril-ya are not evil in the story that is your opinion but give it a though at least.

[Guest]

There is no proof that the Vril-Ya are evil, or have anything to do with the MPD. Your grasping at straws and using the Vril as a scapegoat for theories.

[Matuzz]

There is no proof that the Vril-Ya are evil, or have anything to do with the MPD. Your grasping at straws and using the Vril as a scapegoat for theories.

Except that it's run by souls and in order to get a certain Vril generator in Call of the Dead you had to sacrifice a soul.

Pyramids flying and being on the surface on the Moon loading screen -> Same pyramids picked up from a Black Sun symbol on the Shangri-La loading screen.

Black Sun symbols on the Knights at Agartha.

Samantha going into the MPD and being IN Agartha. Agartha that just happens to be the home of Vril ya.

Richtofen touched the MPD and was teleported into Shangri-La which was one gateway into Agartha as quoted by Brock.

Sacrificing altar with Alien skull in Shangri-La.

Both Focusing Stone found from the Shangri-La and Vril Generator are needed to actually open the MPD. Hey maybe it is just coincidence and MPD doesn't have anything to do with Vril as you say...

[TimelordAlex]

Seeing as this map is only a bonus map which you have to pay extra for, i wouldnt get too excited for it, its there to feature the O4 characters so people cant complain there not in the game

[Stop Mocking Me0]

We don't know that yet. After all this is a re-imagining of the Der reise map. Meaning it's not the same as the first 2 times we've been here.