PAP ritual and the Shadowman

[Chopper]

I'm hoping someone can explain something to me about the PAP ritual.

 

In this video, what is the Shadowman talking about when you finish it.  Is it an integral part of the EE, does what he say have deeper meaning?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9RNBot-v1o

 

I'm working on something and noticed this for the first time today.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

 

[Ragdo11706]

I just think it's where he double crossed us (the 4 characters) & that's what leads to the "Keepers" in aiding us in defeating him. 

 

I'm sure there's a lot more to it than that. Just what I've gathered from it. 

[83457]

I feel that it is setting the tone that you have been duped into making things worse, helping to let them take your dimension, only so you will feel great later when you stop them.

 

Common plot device.

 

Edit: also, the song always sounds like: potato, potato, potato, tomato, (some other stuff), potato, potato, potato, tomato...

 

I can't be the only one who hear's that.

Edited November 27, 2015 by 83457
Sinister, undisclosed reasons.

[Chopper]

So hypothetically if you can force him to say nothing, and he just hangs there for eternity what would that mean?

 

Could that be an alternate path to either the EE or something different entirely?

[Guest]

It means big squid over lord things are about to assimilate the SoE dimension. They seem like they take advantage of universes in peril and consume them. But the Keepers want to save this dimension and since the characters will have a vendetta with the Shadowman for tricking them, they would agree and they eventually save it from assimilation.

[Tac]

Yeah adding to the two posts above, it's more related to the story than the EE itself (unless that's what you're hoping for).

 

@Chopper, there are a few ways it could go down.  As stated, he appears after the PaP ritual, then says the quote, then disappears.  If he weren't to say the quote, he could still disappear.  If he were to sit there for eternity, I don't know what that would mean but surely it would result in a different path (assuming it wasn't a glitch).

[Ragdo11706]

13 hours ago, Chopper said:

So hypothetically if you can force him to say nothing, and he just hangs there for eternity what would that mean?

 

Could that be an alternate path to either the EE or something different entirely?

I know for a fact people have had this happen in game. As to what triggers it or if it's actually a glitch is unknown (I believe). I do know however, if you do get him stuck it prevents the Margwa from spawning in the rest of the game. 

 

Thus becoming the Dream High Round Run in SoE...

[Chopper]

I know what triggers it. I'm trying to work out if it's a glitch or not.

 

If Treyarch patch it then I'll be very upset as it's what makes the map fun to me, no Margwa.

 

Which means I'll have to wait for mod tools to be able to enjoy SOE.

[Ragdo11706]

@Chopper What triggers it. I wanna know so I can play without the Margwa. Can you message me. 

[Chopper]

@Ragdo11706 @DeathBringerZen

I really want to solve this issue.  Potentially, it's a completely different path you can take in regards to maybe the EE - it could also a glitch.

There's a chance it could be only able to be done in solo, but I need to test it with someone.

 

Ragdo and DBZ - what do you guys think?  This was given to me by a very good friend and is essential to enable high round players to go really far in peace without the Margwa.

Therefore, if it's a glitch I'm not that happy sharing it with people.

 

On the other hand if it's potentially something integral to something new on SOE, I want all this community working on it.#

I'm not in this to be 'first', I want to help the entire community.

John - would you be good to play some Xbox on Monday to mess around 2 player to see if we can replicate it?

[DeathBringerZen]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

 John - would you be good to play some Xbox on Monday to mess around 2 player to see if we can replicate it?

Sure bud. I have a few other things I would also like to try out. Will be free from around 4pm onwards so hit me up on here or Skype when you are down.

[Ragdo11706]

I'm getting ready to start back playing. I'm going to search around for anything new/different. I know people have been doing this since the first week. Maybe not day 1, but very early on. 

I think by now, knowing Treyarch & how they like to patch anything helpful /useful in the game that shouldn't be. This is one of those things that definitely would have been patched.

I also agree, this may be there way for a Solo only Side Quest. Could be a possibility.

Edited November 29, 2015 by Ragdo11706

[Slub77]

Well if people on PSn wanna give it a shot as well I'm up for trying w/e

[Rissole25]

@Chopper I've encountered this as well and I'm fairly certain it's a glitch because my character stopped making quotes completely, although I didn't realise it made Margwa's stop spawning. That is if we're speaking of the same glitch (involving the WW).

[Chopper]

@Rissole25 I need to check that then mate as it does involve the WW.  Talking about it with a few people it just seems too specific too not be coded and designed.

Never noticed about my character quotes after at all tbh.