So.... Nothing new?

[Stop Mocking Me0]

So... Yeah... We still have another month before the DLC is released and I am SUPER thirsty for this map now. Even though I technically have to wait another 2 months as well as anyone else hoping to remain unspoiled until the game comes out for them.

Treyarch may have messed up with that early DLC info drop. I would have waited until at least tomorrow to drop it, even for the christmas sales. Any thoughts on this? 

[Guest]

I think they want to make the DLC last. The game barely just came out, having it be two months after its release would make them a laughing stock. I have enough info for DLC to speculate on, although it seems people are not even talking about the story anymore and literally just focused on the WW. Like, I feel like the only one talking about the story anymore which is a shame because it gets boring.

[Stop Mocking Me0]

Well they're focused on the thing they see is the most tangible. The story is going to be fleshed out further come DLC 1 so that's the extent they're willing to look. 

Unless you're always avidly looking for story links like Pinnaz and yourself. Me, I personally prefer to think theoretically considering my limited ability to actually review and study said story. Also it's more fun and can actually be pretty inspiring, even if there is little reasoning behind it. 

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

Well they're focused on the thing they see is the most tangible. The story is going to be fleshed out further come DLC 1 so that's the extent they're willing to look. 

Unless you're always avidly looking for story links like Pinnaz and yourself. Me, I personally prefer to think theoretically considering my limited ability to actually review and study said story. Also it's more fun and can actually be pretty inspiring, even if there is little reasoning behind it. 

I have already figured it a majority of the story from this game. Just missing a few key points that will be cleared in Der Eisendrache.

[Castun50]

i really am wondering what is to happen with the summoners key and rich, the monastery looks like a teleporter room, however we do see the cable car moving. so idk how we are getting here, but the rockets are pretty interesting. almost like ascension looking. the whole "dragon" theory seems really out there but there is a castle so i guess we shall see. as far as everyone knows....we know nothing about what is going to go down, only that the new map looks amazing and the coordinates lead to here. everything else is thoughts. My thought is that this place is going to answer a lot of big qs like what is maxis planning? IE his actual plan. I wonder if this will lead up to the moon remake being the last DLC like in BLOPS1. should be really interesting.

[Guest]

I am hoping that we somehow use the Summoning Key to coax the Shadowman into the MPD but instead of him taking over and causing chaos, he turns the zombies eyes purple and is powerless to do anything but ward off the great evil that is coming. That or Nero goes into control as a sacrifice to save everyone else, but thats a distant dream. Either of them would be FANTASTIC announcers.

[Castun50]

3 minutes ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

I am hoping that we somehow use the Summoning Key to coax the Shadowman into the MPD but instead of him taking over and causing chaos, he turns the zombies eyes purple and is powerless to do anything but ward off the great evil that is coming. That or Nero goes into control as a sacrifice to save everyone else, but thats a distant dream. Either of them would be FANTASTIC announcers.

I like this idea alot, however i thought nero and SoE crew were dead? Ive heard audio that might point to them becoming zombies and maxis's radio suggests their doomed. unless they somehow escape which would be WICKED! My fav charactor outside the O4 origins4 and of course sam and maxis, is nero. If they keep going with shadow man that would be SICC!!!!! I think the darkness in the MPD will take him over if he ever does do that. I really hope they focus on the storyline this time and not some bs like they did with N4 and bo2. That almost turned me off to zombies all together and ive been a fan since WaW. I have also been wondering with moon coming i wonder if we are gonna go back to shangri la. I really hope we dont though. the old maps were fun but i want more story based maps not things i need to decrypt. SoE's EE was perfect. It kept telling THEIR story. I really hope the same thing happens in future maps. Dont get me wrong i loved ascension and MOTD but didnt tell much story unless u reallllllly dove into it. and even then it didnt relate directly. I love when i have confirmed news. not speculations. Also what do you think of rich (origins) u think he may turn into O4 rich? he seems to be in the giant at higher rounds

[Tac]

22 hours ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

Like, I feel like the only one talking about the story anymore which is a shame because it gets boring.

Agree completely.  Very few of us left who are actually talking about it.  It sucks.

41 minutes ago, Castun50 said:

i really am wondering what is to happen with the summoners key and rich, the monastery looks like a teleporter room, however we do see the cable car moving. so idk how we are getting here, but the rockets are pretty interesting. almost like ascension looking. the whole "dragon" theory seems really out there but there is a castle so i guess we shall see. as far as everyone knows....we know nothing about what is going to go down, only that the new map looks amazing and the coordinates lead to here. everything else is thoughts. My thought is that this place is going to answer a lot of big qs like what is maxis planning? IE his actual plan. I wonder if this will lead up to the moon remake being the last DLC like in BLOPS1. should be really interesting.

I personally have doubts about a Moon remake, but I suppose that's for another thread.  I too am curious about the Rift Stone and what will happen to it, but I suspect it will be used to merge all the realities or something like that.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Tac said:

I personally have doubts about a Moon remake, but I suppose that's for another thread.  I too am curious about the Rift Stone and what will happen to it, but I suspect it will be used to merge all the realities or something like that.

How do you explain the new Moon loading screen, Moon quotes in the Giant, Moon being hinted at returning since MotD and a whole lot more that I have forgotten because of how many times I have said all of this to people before?

[Castun50]

4 minutes ago, Tac said:

Agree completely.  Very few of us left who are actually talking about it.  It sucks.

I personally have doubts about a Moon remake, but I suppose that's for another thread.  I too am curious about the Rift Stone and what will happen to it, but I suspect it will be used to merge all the realities or something like that.

I have to agree there are a lot of hints to a moon remake and them remaking it with a loading screen and all. My biggest question though, is if it is not coming for awhile....why all the new stuff about moon? the other thought I have, is moon IS NOT coming, and they are using it as an example to show what is changing in the zombies universe that we know and love

[Stop Mocking Me0]

3 hours ago, Tac said:

Agree completely.  Very few of us left who are actually talking about it.  It sucks.

I personally have doubts about a Moon remake, but I suppose that's for another thread.  I too am curious about the Rift Stone and what will happen to it, but I suspect it will be used to merge all the realities or something like that.

Well gee, I wonder why I wouldn't want to discuss my thoughts on the storyline. (Not a poke at you, a poke at Nabs) 

I too share doubts about a moon remake, but would love there to be one. 

I suspect the summoning key is used to open holes between worlds, if that's the case, I see the summoning key being the gateway across the multidimensional realm. 

[Tac]

1 hour ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

I suspect the summoning key is used to open holes between worlds, if that's the case, I see the summoning key being the gateway across the multidimensional realm. 

By holes do you mean wormholes, like the Rifts we have in Shadows of Evil?  Or do you mean something else?

[NaBrZHunter]

6 hours ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

Well gee, I wonder why I wouldn't want to discuss my thoughts on the storyline. (Not a poke at you, a poke at @NaBrZHunter) 

I too share doubts about a moon remake, but would love there to be one. 

I suspect the summoning key is used to open holes between worlds, if that's the case, I see the summoning key being the gateway across the multidimensional realm. 

LOL! Your "poke" is pointless. Get it? Pointless? Right. Bahaha. 

 

The thing that has killed CoDZ story discussion for me is how some folks either don't bother to research, don't care to research, or simply don't give a damn about how we got here, and instead revert to unfounded claims and assertions that they swear by will stubbornly use to annihilate the productivity of a thread. 

Research made this place great. Members who did and still do pour hard work into their threads, making historical, scientific, and storyline-based connections, and making logical progressive predictions based on the past, real history, the radios and notes we are given, and the commentary from the game itself. There is far too much blatant outside influence on Zombies now-and don't tell me it was there before because back in the day, zombies was very much its own story, not a bunch of new characters for an HP Lovecraft spinoff fan fiction setting its feet carefully to avoid copyright infringement. 

 

At this point, BO3 is looking very bleak in comparison to its roots. I pray I am wrong. However, @Nightmare Voyager, to say you have it all figgered out and that DE will make it a wrap for you is nothing short of arrogant, my friend. I mean, don't take me wrong, very often, I have much respect for your research, your support for canon, and plausible foresight. But Treyarch will stop at nothing to make this new installment as convoluted as they can. Even if it means just deliberately teasing information that never would have been this exposed in the past, i.e.,

"No time to explain"

"Pictures, Dempsey, Pictures, or it didn't happen."

 

Not to mention that some of the greatest minds in the community are still uncertain about so much of this. 

 

I want to see more evidence, less speculation. More fact-based discussion and analysis. But sadly, that doesn't seem to be popular on CoDZ anymore. Mostly now, just seeing far-fetched theories and new members who don't read archives and make new theories about 'discoveries' of WAW-era evidence. 

 

That's my rant. Hope someday I won't have to feel that way anymore. I miss good ol' CoDZ. There's a reason I avoid Reddit. 

 

 

 

[Guest]

I liked everything you said but... why am I coming off as arrogant for thinking Moon will get a remake as its the only logical explanation for all of the evidence for it? Its not like I am saying its definite, but to me its a 99% chance. If it isn't I have promised to eat my socks. Saying that, I was definitely sure the Giant would have an EE where you awaken the test subjects but the Mexican would be there and alive. That still could happen in the next map I guess, so I haven't shaved my eyebrows off for that one yet. Sorry if I am coming off as arrogant, I promise that's not my intention. I just really believe the stuff I am saying has some relevance at least, especially Moon. Sometimes I feel like I have a lot of this storyline down too, but then its as if other people (as in the wider community) don't even know simple stuff yet like that there are other worlds now.

Thanks though for telling me I am sounding arrogant. If I ever get on a high horse, I always want my friends to be their to knock me off of it so that I am acting properly. The one big theory I have about all of this stuff I am just too lazy to finish writing it all up. I am pretty sure I have the entirety of the Origins- Der Eisendrache arc down, at least the whole of Origins which I am fully confident I understand, especially things like why Richtofen acts the way he does, so I might try post theories on some of that stuff. I will probably get on posting that when Der Eisendrache comes so I know I am right. I could even link anyone the Google Document that is a W.I.P. in explaining the "Primis" Arc of the story, so if anyone wants that they can PM me and hopefully it will lead to better story discussion and some people being able to build off of some stuff I am trying to present storyline wise.

Also there's a way they are telling the story now, that deserves analysis on its own that I slightly touched upon here: http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/topic/181719-is-maxis-in-the-mpd-and-samantha-in-the-cave/#comment-1745038 (@NaBrZHunter check it out because I want to know if that's right and I trust in your judgement).

[NaBrZHunter]

@Nightmare Voyager Your heart's in the right place, man. I do know you work hard, and haha! I have the same issue withwriting. I'll just take what you said originally with a grain of salt, and as confidence. It sounded more 'know it all' when I read it, but seeing your response is disarming. 

And actually, I was just referring to the Origins-DE part. I would still like to see more Moon. I'm ALWAYS down for more Moon. 

I will read that! Thanks for the link, and definitely stick some of your documents out here if you want to. 

[Stop Mocking Me0]

9 hours ago, Tac said:

By holes do you mean wormholes, like the Rifts we have in Shadows of Evil?  Or do you mean something else?

Well holes between worlds are typically wormholes or rifts so, yeah. 

 

As for the moon remake, it's pretty 50/50 right now. So it's neither wise to say it IS coming or ISN'T coming.  On one hand they've stated there's no future plans for any more remake DLC. On the OTHER hand it'd be kinda a big spoiler if they DID just drop that info. Likewise we have the loading screen image from the review video,  HOWEVER it also clearly depicts that griffin station isn't there, which was a good 60-80% of the map. 

Personally I'm hoping for another zombies-based DLC witch includes "The giant", "Griffin station (a remade-moon )", a set of custom skins for the 9 (or however many) specialist characters that make them look like the zombies team, as well as 3 MP maps added as well: The giant (der reise, all doors open), Griffin station (similar matter), and "Theater" a kino map for MP. On top of this there would be a big finale map for the zombies season leaving us in AWE and horror as opposed to complete confusion. 

That's a bit of a pipe-dream but it's what I want. 

[Castun50]

On 1/3/2016 at 5:34 AM, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

Well holes between worlds are typically wormholes or rifts so, yeah. 

 

As for the moon remake, it's pretty 50/50 right now. So it's neither wise to say it IS coming or ISN'T coming.  On one hand they've stated there's no future plans for any more remake DLC. On the OTHER hand it'd be kinda a big spoiler if they DID just drop that info. Likewise we have the loading screen image from the review video,  HOWEVER it also clearly depicts that griffin station isn't there, which was a good 60-80% of the map. 

Personally I'm hoping for another zombies-based DLC witch includes "The giant", "Griffin station (a remade-moon )", a set of custom skins for the 9 (or however many) specialist characters that make them look like the zombies team, as well as 3 MP maps added as well: The giant (der reise, all doors open), Griffin station (similar matter), and "Theater" a kino map for MP. On top of this there would be a big finale map for the zombies season leaving us in AWE and horror as opposed to complete confusion. 

That's a bit of a pipe-dream but it's what I want. 

what if we meet up with N4 in buried to fix everthing? "mend the rift." thatd be a trip

[Stop Mocking Me0]

My personal theory is that the N4 are going to come through the rift to save the O4 come DLC 2.