Vril Artifacts and Their Functions

[clueless]

First off, I thank @Lioss10, @Tac, @RadZakpak, @PINNAZ, @NotAnAn0n, @anonymous, and @RichKiller for helping me bounce around theories on Discord and/or supply details to help me with finer details I missed. This post will only be discussing the Vril Artifacts themselves, not so much the actual Vril Energy. We have encountered several Vril Artifacts throughout the Zombies Storyline, although most came to a point at Moon. In Black Ops 2 there was little to no emphasis on Vril Artifacts, instead focusing on the Global Polarization Devices (which can be considered to be conduits for Vril themselves) and in Black Ops 3 the only instance shown in non-Chronicles maps is the Vril Device in Der Eisendrache. Black Ops 4 introduces the Vril Vessel and consecutively the Agarthan Device, which requires the former to make the latter.

 

The Vril Device / The Golden Rod is the iconic Vril Artifact recovered for Richtofen through the events of Call of the Dead's Easter Egg Quest. It appears in Call of the Dead, Shangri-la, Moon, Der Eisendrache and Tag der Toten.

 

The Vril Map is called this only by filename, and is found in Pablo's holding cell in Call of the Dead. It is meant to be used to find the 4 codes needed for the Dials Step of the Call of the Dead Easter Egg Quest. (I have only just found out about this maybe an hour ago, while looking for a thread encompassing Vril Artifacts so I will not be covering this one in the initial thread as I have no experience with this one, instead I'll link a page discussing it here where I found it below.)

 

The Vril Generator is the name given to the Vril Device / Golden Rod after the Focusing Stone embedded in it is charged via the Casimir Mechanism at Griffin Station's Receiving Bay. It gives off a white/blue glow, and while it appears uncharged in Shangri-la and both uncharged/charged on Moon.

 

The Vril Interface is the large disc on the front of the Moon Pyramid Device that connects the Vril Sphere and Vril Generator to the MPD. It appears on both Moon and Der Eisendrache, however the Interface appears differently in Der Eisendrache, which integrates the Summoning Key into it instead.

(Moon BO3)

(Der Eisendrache, notice how instead of a physical imprint for the Vril Generator on the bottom panel there's an aetherial blue/teal colored outline of the Vril Generator on the top panel of the Vril Interface here.)

 

The Black Egg / Vril Sphere (thank you @RichKiller for pointing out the actual name of the artifact, a not-so-subtle hint to a Planet Bomb from Starflight 2) is the "Egg" we have to uncover from Tunnel 6, and then escort to the Moon Pyramid Device. It makes sounds that resemble an alien language as it moves. It only appears on Moon.

 

The Vril Vessel / The Seal of Duality is a metal cage crafted by Jebediah Brown after the Keepers request him to construct the Agarthan Device, saying that he is unable to obtain the other parts needed to construct the entire Device. It only appears in Tag der Toten. 

 

The Agarthan Device is constructed in Tag der Toten using the Seal of Duality, the Apothicon Blood of an Elder God and the Elemental Shard. It is capable of ANYTHING, to quote Ultimis Richtofen it acts like "a genie in a bottle" and was planned to be used as a backdoor to the Aether if his original plan (Richtofen's Grand Scheme) failed.

 

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Now with all of the known and established Vril Artifacts identified, we can crack into each a bit more.

 

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The Vril Device / Golden Rod is quite similar to a vajra, the weapon used by the Hindu god Indra to slay the evil Vritra with thunderbolts. More relatable to Zombies, however, is the Vril Staves used by the Vril-ya to harness Vril Energy in a safe manner (which is obviously the reference Zielinski was going for but figured I'd throw in the tidbit of Hindu mythos as well). In-game, we see the Vril Device (specifically without the Focusing Stone) capable of a few things. In Der Eisendrache, it gives off a large electrical field when placed in the Keeper's Tomb before pulling its soul back into the physical plane. At 2:01 in the video below you can see how the Vril Device acts when placed in the Keeper Tomb, nothing was done besides being picked up beforehand.

Nothing of this behavior happened when placing the Vril Generator in the Vril Interface, even on BO3 Moon, implying a different process is happening in this situation. Moreso, in Tag der Toten the Vril Device is capable of absorbing life force, which is distinctly proven to be different from souls. 

 

My conclusion for the Vril Device's behavior and function (and by correlation the Vril Generator) is this - the Vril Device is capable of pulling souls and life force from a source, whether it be for example a tomb or a recently deceased body. When amplified with enough Vril Energy (via a Focusing Stone under the effects of the Casimir Effect) the Vril Device can even pull souls from different planes of reality, even the normally untouchable Aether.

 

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The Vril Interface is actually quite simple. It's the conduit (I'm using this word specifically) that transfers energy between whatever is connected to it and the MPD. It's why the Vril Generator is needed and not the Vril Device; we connect the soul-pulling device to the conduit that connects it to the Aether's gateway - the MPD itself. However, the conduit itself requires immense power to sustain, in the form of life force. Which is why we only need 1 canister worth of life force to simply open the MPD's shields but all four to extend the Vril Device's reach to the Aether not once but twice. What surprises me is how Group 935 managed to hack into it to access it, proven by the fact hacking four terminals in the labs of Griffin Station and pressing control buttons makes the center of the Vril Interface invert, giving the Vril Sphere a place to integrate. How the Summoning Key interacts with the Vril Interface is an enigma I'll try answering by saying the Summoning Key needed to be "recharged", since the Key did not glow and give particle effects until after the Der Eisendrache Boss Fight.

 

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The Vril Sphere was my biggest problem, as many of you saw as I actually lost my mind on Discord trying to figure this out. Big shoutout to @RadZakpak, @Lioss10, and @PINNAZ for keeping me from going full mental.

The first thing to understand before even getting into this Artifact is that the Wiki Page is entirely wrong on this subject. To quote the Wiki:

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"The Vril Sphere is a Vril artifact that was discovered by Richtofen while he was isolated with the M.P.D., following the teleportation test with Dr. Schuster. The Vril Sphere is designed to be a conduit to transfer energy between the Vril Interface on the M.P.D. and the Vril Generator. It apparently has the ability to create profiles for users of the M.P.D. via the Vril Interface, as this was heard on one of the audio reels on Moon."

But if you (read) the audio reel below referring to the Vril Sphere, we get a different response entirely:

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Doctor Groph: (Static) “Hope this works. Schuster, power it up.”

Hissing gas and a loud bang are heard

Computerized Voice: “Systems Nominal. Accessing Vril Device (Vril Interface). Interface via M.P.D. active. Accessing M.P.D.. M.P.D. integrity check nominal. Awaiting input.”

Doctor Groph: “Excellent, bring the sample.”

Loud bangs heard

Computerized Voice: “Analyzing M.P.D.. Creating profile.”

Buzzing noise

Computerized Voice: “Profile Created.”

Dr. Groph “Excellent. Now, scan for target.”

Doctor Schuster: “Yes, Doctor.”

Gas hissing and bangs are heard once again

Computerized Voice: “Target located.”

Doctor Groph: “Bring him here, immediately.”

The sample is implied to be the Vril Sphere, emphasized by the loud bang of presumably Schuster dropping the damn thing before putting it in the Interface. But the Sphere isn't creating profiles, in fact it's not doing anything yet; this is all the computer system hacking into the Interface. Profile in this context isn't being used like a profile on a gaming console, but a profile to fit a descriptive search. But how would they find Maxis with just a profile? Maybe with the Vril Sphere, which specifically pinpoints his location in Shangri-la. My next question was why would Maxis care about it after then? And I cannot believe I have the answer. 

Maxis needed the coordinates to hit three specific locations on the Earth, to ensure the best chance of opening The Rift to get to Samantha. He uses the Vril Sphere to calculate the trajectory of the missiles from Moon to hit three specific points flourishing with 115 - Tunguska (Call of the Dead / Tag der Toten Facility), Groom Lake (Nuketown / Alpha Omega), and Angola (Buried). (The France Dig Site did not exist in this timeline or was an unknown factor to this Maxis.)

 

While that is a completely different discussion for another thread, the function of the Vril Sphere is some sort of AI system capable of speaking in an alien language designed as a GPS / locator when connected with another system made to direct it. When integrated with the MPD it could allow the user inside to locate specific points on Earth, moreso ideal locations for Polarization Towers or to locate the Rift. In Groph and Schuster's case they built a "profile" using Maxis' DNA or otherwise sample that allowed the Vril Sphere to locate him. The Sphere actively looks for a point of integration, which is why it stops at the satellite dish (a snug fit) before reaching its final destination at the MPD. Then Maxis uses it to locate the ideal locations to hit the Earth with the missiles on the Moon.

 

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The Vril Vessel / The Seal of Duality is another simple one. Simply based on audio logs, Richtofen uses the Vril Vessel (not the Vril Device as Richtofen himself points out talking to Samuel) to siphon souls AND provide an exit point, even an exit point that cannot normally house souls: 

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"Using a processed rock of Element 115 und the Vril Vessel, I was able to successfully siphon a piece of the souls of our three specimens und inject them into the rock."

This is different from the Vril Device, which as shown by Der Eisendrache doesn't provide a determined exit point for the soul in the form of a body (or a rock in our case). If the soul comes out and there's no soulless body to occupy, that sucks and you become an incorporeal spirit that requires massive amounts of life force to manifest as a physical being. The Vril Vessel is an incomplete artifact, a fraction of the whole known as the Agarthan Device. 

 

I cannot believe I forgot to bring up the other key detail this artifact presents. After being placed in the Pack-a-Punch Machine, the Vril Vessel surges with energy and transports the Purgatory Point and the mines to Angola, deep underground.

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 I put the metal vessel in the Pack-a-Punch machine, just as instructed. Next thing I know, all the energy, all the power of the world get sucked out of the air as if pulled inside the machine! Next thing, the world went white. I came too and I see that I, my shop, all the people, the whole damn town has been transported as if willed by the Lord into this cavern, buried below the surface of the Earth! I fear we are at the threshold of Hell, the world just waitin' to open below our feet!

So it can siphon more than just souls...it can do it anywhere as long as long as it spits it into somewhere. It doesn't appear to have any control of temporal change on it's own, as the town was still in the same year as before when it moved across the continents.

 

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"The Agarthan Device, a device capable of granting that which one desires. Almost like... a genie in a bottle."

Richtofen, while assured his Grand Scheme would work, planned to make the Agarthan Device to act as another way into Agartha. Constructed by assembling the Vril Vessel, Elemental Shard, Tamed Apothicon Blood and then siphoning the power and energy from 5 Pack-a-Punch Machines AND the Golden Pack-a-Punch Machine after absorbing enough life force from the undead, the device wields such an unfathomable amount of power. The numerous accounts to it as a "genie in a bottle" throughout the map give the idea this artifact is literally capable of anything. By unifying Keeper and Apothicon, "resolving the duality", any aspect of multiverse can be shaped to the user's will. While we only get to see it be used once, it was proven to work as intended and due to that I'd like to think Nikolai was sincere when he stated everyone would get their wish, just in another life where they never meet due to getting their perfect lives. Typical genie's behavior.

 

[anonymous]

Somehow you manage it everytime to create a true Asylum post that is just absolutely awesome! Brains, brains, I flood you with brains.

 

I'll be honest with you, I never knew about that Moon radio! Your theory about the Vril Sphere makes perfectly sense, and would it be an idea to make a youtube video on the CoDZOfficial channel about this thread? Would be pretty cool in my opinion.

 

As for the Vril map, to me it seems to be all about the theme of celestial patterns, eclipses and ancient time travel. D Jano (likely Pablo, was he in Group 935 to study such Mayan/Aztec artifacts under the secret name D Jano?) wrote on that map 'How far in one of the four cardinals?' (cardinals meaning compass direction). This reminded me of something I saw on the Moon loading screen, written alongside a picture of the Vril Interface, calling it the Mythos Disc:

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SENSATIONAL!

Not dissimilar to the Aztec and Mayan calendars, the Mythos disc defines the celestial patterns for your practical and magical purposes. Cipactli, Ehecatl, Calli, Cuetzpalin, Coatl, etc. are represented in non-visible form. Abide by its magical powers and use

Now I don't know if this loading screen should be considered canon or not. The thing that striked me was the mention of the Aztec words for directions (north, south, east, west), which sorta matches the cardinals mention in the Vril map. Also the sentence '[Vril Interface] defines the celestial patterns for your practical and magical purposes' is interesting. Obviously, nothing is magic but mere science uncomprehendable by humans, but it gives me the feeling this Vril Interface can manipulate celestial patterns or something? Like we see in the Shangri-La easter egg?

[clueless]

44 minutes ago, anonymous said:

I'll be honest with you, I never knew about that Moon radio! Your theory about the Vril Sphere makes perfectly sense, and would it be an idea to make a youtube video on the CoDZOfficial channel about this thread? Would be pretty cool in my opinion.

Absolutely! There's so much more to discuss and I was hoping to make this thread a megathread for discussing them more in-depth, giving my interpretations as a stepping stone for other theories. 

46 minutes ago, anonymous said:

As for the Vril map, to me it seems to be all about the theme of celestial patterns, eclipses and ancient time travel. D Jano (likely Pablo, was he in Group 935 to study such Mayan/Aztec artifacts under the secret name D Jano?) wrote on that map 'How far in one of the four cardinals?' (cardinals meaning compass direction). This reminded me of something I saw on the Moon loading screen, written alongside a picture of the Vril Interface, calling it the Mythos Disc:

Now I don't know if this loading screen should be considered canon or not. The thing that striked me was the mention of the Aztec words for directions (north, south, east, west), which sorta matches the cardinals mention in the Vril map.

There's definitely emphasis on the cardinal directions, especially on the Der Eisendrache Vril Interface which has a glow to everything not going the four directions (not posting the picture again simply because there's already a lot of space taken up from the initial post). While I am suspicious of how far we can consider canon regarding the loading screens in general, the already established canon parts displayed on the Moon Loading Screen (specifically the left page, anyways) are accurate if not cryptic so I'm willing to assume that the Vril Interface / Mythos Disc is also true yet cryptic. I see correlation between the Vril Interface and the Vril Map, but I need to dig more into Call of the Dead (which has much more to offer than I first suspected, apparently I've been skipping a step because I never knew this map existed which is apparently needed to tune the Interdimensional Communication Dials) before I can make any sort of theory involving the two.

1 hour ago, anonymous said:

Also the sentence '[Vril Interface] defines the celestial patterns for your practical and magical purposes' is interesting. Obviously, nothing is magic but mere science uncomprehendable by humans, but it gives me the feeling this Vril Interface can manipulate celestial patterns or something? Like we see in the Shangri-La easter egg?

Well, we know the Apothicons hid the MPD within one of the newly discovered dimensions. Perhaps the Vril Interface was able to manipulate celestial bodies in conjunction with the Vril Sphere to locate a distant, lifeless Moon to hide it on....

[anonymous]

What's also interesting is the developers' choice for these objects as Vril energy transmitters. As said earlier, I believe Vril is the same as Ethereal Energy, with Element 115 being the physical crystalline solid manifestation of it. Ethereal Energy is interwoven with the universe around us, and one could say it is the same as the Hindu Prana, the Chinese Ch'i, and Wilhelm Reich's Orgone (or in simpler words: Universal Energy).  The interesting thing about Orgone is that 'Orgone Pyramids' are actually a thing. Crafted of 'Orgonite', a combination of crystal and metal in resin, such a pyramid is said to  to filter and balance energy fields by converting low frequency energy into high frequency energy.

 

I also discovered a theory called the Pyramid Power Theory, stating that pyramid shapes, built to the proportions of the Great Cheops Pyramid in Egypt, can generate energy that produces startling effects. It is supposed that a pyramid can alter whatever falls within its energized walls. The special shape of the pyramid is like the special shape of a violin: A violin resonates sound; a pyramid resonates energy. Regarding the pyramids in Egypt, there are so many coincidences in the construction that pyramidophiles believe ancient aliens (read: Vril-Ya/Keepers) must have had some specific use in mind when they built the giant triangle. For instance, the King's Chamber, the major energy center of the pyramid, is also the center of gravity. The pyramid is aligned north-south, exactly parallel to the earth's magnetic axis. And although the pyramids are solid rock, small chambers were carefully carved out and related in very specific ways, almost, it seems, to act as an enclosed space in which energy could resonate and be stored. Other researchers believe the value of the pyramid may be in producing semiconductor crystals which can be grown in the magnetically "pure" pyramid environment. This instantly reminded me of 115, or crystalline universal energy.

 

The name “pyramid” suggests hidden capabilities, as it translates very literally to mean “fire in the middle". Aparently even Nikola Tesla, a sciencific mind not unimportant in our Zombieverse, believed that a pyramid had special capabilities. Tesla was certain that he could recreate this process and capture energy he believed to be lodged deep in Earth (!!!) and transmit it all over the globe. He was fairly certain that the Earth itself was a large capacitor, holding endless volts of electricity that he believed he could provide to anyone in the world for an endless amount of time. This instantly reminded me of the Kronorium excerpt where it is said that the Earth has a Gateway to Agartha, the idea that Earth's core is a giant deposit of 115, etc.

 

So that's my rant about pyramids. The shape of the MPD isn't triangular for no reason :) 

 

Sources: https://www.gaia.com/article/were-great-pyramids-once-used-transmit-energy, https://vocal.media/futurism/what-is-pyramid-power and https://worldoforgonite.com/

 

 

[clueless]

48 minutes ago, anonymous said:

What's also interesting is the developers' choice for these objects as Vril energy transmitters. As said earlier, I believe Vril is the same as Ethereal Energy, with Element 115 being the physical crystalline solid manifestation of it. Ethereal Energy is interwoven with the universe around us, and one could say it is the same as the Hindu Prana, the Chinese Ch'i, and Wilhelm Reich's Orgone (or in simpler words: Universal Energy).  The interesting thing about Orgone is that 'Orgone Pyramids' are actually a thing. Crafted of 'Orgonite', a combination of crystal and metal in resin, such a pyramid is said to  to filter and balance energy fields by converting low frequency energy into high frequency energy.

 

I also discovered a theory called the Pyramid Power Theory, stating that pyramid shapes, built to the proportions of the Great Cheops Pyramid in Egypt, can generate energy that produces startling effects. It is supposed that a pyramid can alter whatever falls within its energized walls. The special shape of the pyramid is like the special shape of a violin: A violin resonates sound; a pyramid resonates energy. Regarding the pyramids in Egypt, there are so many coincidences in the construction that pyramidophiles believe ancient aliens (read: Vril-Ya/Keepers) must have had some specific use in mind when they built the giant triangle. For instance, the King's Chamber, the major energy center of the pyramid, is also the center of gravity. The pyramid is aligned north-south, exactly parallel to the earth's magnetic axis. And although the pyramids are solid rock, small chambers were carefully carved out and related in very specific ways, almost, it seems, to act as an enclosed space in which energy could resonate and be stored. Other researchers believe the value of the pyramid may be in producing semiconductor crystals which can be grown in the magnetically "pure" pyramid environment. This instantly reminded me of 115, or crystalline universal energy.

 

The name “pyramid” suggests hidden capabilities, as it translates very literally to mean “fire in the middle". Aparently even Nikola Tesla, a sciencific mind not unimportant in our Zombieverse, believed that a pyramid had special capabilities. Tesla was certain that he could recreate this process and capture energy he believed to be lodged deep in Earth (!!!) and transmit it all over the globe. He was fairly certain that the Earth itself was a large capacitor, holding endless volts of electricity that he believed he could provide to anyone in the world for an endless amount of time. This instantly reminded me of the Kronorium excerpt where it is said that the Earth has a Gateway to Agartha, the idea that Earth's core is a giant deposit of 115, etc.

 

So that's my rant about pyramids. The shape of the MPD isn't triangular for no reason

 

Sources: https://www.gaia.com/article/were-great-pyramids-once-used-transmit-energy, https://vocal.media/futurism/what-is-pyramid-power and https://worldoforgonite.com/

 

 

I have also been suspicious of the Vril-ya taking part of the Pyramids (Qabr Almawtaa piqued your interest or unveiled it further haha) and Chaos Story, while separate, definitely opened my mind to the possibility that multiple cultures can be talking about the same instance (in this case, 115 / Vril / Aethereal Energy). 

 

This also fits with Dr. Groph's statement of the MPD's "shields", which open to allow a user to access the Aethereal Gateway inside. The shields keep the energy flowing inside and prevent damage to the body from the outside (I would assume the Keepers have more efficient ways to damage if not destroy a body within the MPD than our firearms, and we take care of the Corrupted Keeper inside the MPD in Der Eisendrache which means it is possible).

 

The Earth's core being entirely 115 would be feasible, such an abundance of even the weakened state of 115 (as per the radioactive decay) would be enough to tear a hole right into Agartha, however the damage to the Earth from accessing this would certainly leave no survivors as Maxis states. And how lucky that there's a mine deep underground with its' own abundance of 115 that could crack right into the core with the right payload setting it off...

[Slade]

I like the explanation for the Sphere. That always bothered me endlessly. I always assumed it was meant to be the Summoning Key and I was surprised Jason didn't retcon it to BE the Summoning Key in Chronicles like he did with so many other plot points (cough Gersch was meant to be the bald guy in Ascension all along cough).

 

It's still kind of sad that they dropped it so quickly after hinting to its importence with Sam noting how Maxis worked with the Sphere in his studies and Takeo never shutting up about how uncomfortable the Sphere made him.

 

I feel incredibly stupid but.. if the Agarthan Device essentially gives you anything you want, then why did they still had to die?

[clueless]

3 minutes ago, Slade said:

I feel incredibly stupid but.. if the Agarthan Device essentially gives you anything you want, then why did they still had to die?

I think the real answer is the Treyarch wanted a solid, unquestionable ending to the story and said 'they have to die, it's the only way out now'. 

 

Canonically even if the crew just "reset the multiverse", their existence would continue the paradox of 115 and the cycle. It would continue and ravage this new universe they made simply because they exist, especially moreso now out of their own existence. There's only 2 possibilities - Nikolai managed to unbind their souls from the Aether and secure them in the new universe, never to meet for destiny no longer fulfills it, or they are dead for good, wiped with the rest of the multiverse as positive and negative / Aether and Dark Aether annihilate each other upon the purging of the multiverse (except for Sam and Eddie for some reason, maybe a footnote in Nikolai's "wish"?).

[RichKiller]

19 minutes ago, Slade said:

I like the explanation for the Sphere. That always bothered me endlessly. I always assumed it was meant to be the Summoning Key and I was surprised Jason didn't retcon it to BE the Summoning Key

Take in mind that the sphere is actually referred to as an egg and you duplicate it in the last step with the Gersh device and put it in each of the 3 rockets. 
 

Then you have this:

They function very differently overall. 

[clueless]

1 minute ago, RichKiller said:

you duplicate it in the last step with the Gersh device and put it in each of the 3 rockets. 

Wait what??? Where is this said?

[RichKiller]

Just now, clueless said:

Wait what??? Where is this said?

There's a picture and we were talking about this before around but I can't find it rn. I'll try to search it regardless

[anonymous]

39 minutes ago, clueless said:

The Earth's core being entirely 115 would be feasible, such an abundance of even the weakened state of 115 (as per the radioactive decay) would be enough to tear a hole right into Agartha, however the damage to the Earth from accessing this would certainly leave no survivors as Maxis states. And how lucky that there's a mine deep underground with its' own abundance of 115 that could crack right into the core with the right payload setting it off...

Your idea about the MPD's "Shield" really makes sense. As for 115 in Earth's Core, mind you that we know practically nothing about the core of the planet we live on. As for Earth's core, I'd like to quote a part from this thread:

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This is why this realm is associated with 'subterrean', as well as many cultures consider that the afterlife is in the Underworld, Hades, or whatever place where souls go after death. The other world. I summed most of this up in my theory about the Aethereal Hollow Earth, and even more proof for this concept is the fact that in the Timeline it is stated that the Apothicans know that the planet (Earth) has a gateway to Agartha. Now Earth's core is still one of the biggest mysteries on Earth, and no one really knows what is down there. One thing is certain: There is a huge quantity of radioactive metals down there. Remember Element 115 being a radioactive and unstable metal iotope? An element is radioactive if it is unstable, if it cannot be held in the current form for a long time. After a while, it "falls apart" into the form/element that it "wants" to be, emitting radiation. The enormous amount of 115 constantly falls apart and emits radiation, going in the form/place where it "wants" to be: The Aether and Agartha, the source of the Element. This idea would stand on one assumption: That Earth's core contains a hella lot of Element 115!

I think you are spot on concerning the unstable state of Element 115: In fact, it could explain (1) the radioactivity down in our planet's core and (2) it's connection with Agartha. In one of his quotes, Monty even talks about Agartha as "the world within the world". Is Hollow Earth a dimensional anomality accesable via the core?

 

@Slade Yes, I feel like the Egg should have had more importance after Moon as well. As for the Agarthan Device thing, I think it was a genie in a bottle using the energy of the Aether to "grand you your wishes". If your wish is simply to destroy to Aether (or isolate it from any physical realm), you cannot do another wish because your wish was basically to destroy the genie's power, if that makes sense. Anyway, really glad to see you again man! CoDZ heeft je gemist!

 

As for Maxis' experiments, how do you all feel about that? What was he doing?

[RichKiller]

found it 

[anonymous]

Just now, RichKiller said:

found it 

Something something Trinity perhaps? Still one of Moon's biggest mysteries, in my opinion. It doesn't change @clueless theory about the Sphere in the OP tho.

[clueless]

1 hour ago, anonymous said:

Something something Trinity perhaps? Still one of Moon's biggest mysteries, in my opinion. It doesn't change @clueless theory about the Sphere in the OP tho.

Might not even be "The Trinity" everyone keeps talking about, but simply Maxis manipulating the Vril Sphere to home each missile properly to it's source. I'm still a fond believer "Embrace the Trinity" refers simply to the three teleporters in Der Riese connected to the central point, "true power" being the Pack-a-Punch Machine introduced on the same map.

[RichKiller]

44 minutes ago, clueless said:

Might not even be "The Trinity" everyone keeps talking about, but simply Maxis manipulating the Vril Sphere to home each missile properly to it's source. I'm still a fond believer "Embrace the Trinity" refers simply to the three teleporters in Der Riese connected to the central point, "true power" being the Pack-a-Punch Machine introduced on the same map.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

 

 

Take in mind that Illuminati writing has been in the game ever since Verruckt 

 

 

Ever since we had more references to Trinity from Vbush...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity#Artistic_depictions

 

[clueless]

16 minutes ago, RichKiller said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

 

 

Take in mind that Illuminati writing has been in the game ever since Verruckt 

Maybe the Illuminati is directly responsible for the extra Eggs, having more on hand throughout the broken multiverse and supplies them in attempts to break the cycle.

[RichKiller]

2 minutes ago, clueless said:

Maybe the Illuminati is directly responsible for the extra Eggs, having more on hand throughout the broken multiverse and supplies them in attempts to break the cycle.

We know that the temple in Shang is an Illuminati temple, given the EE stones, the gongs, etc. (to which Richtofen gets telaported by the MPD)
Could be some kind of Apothicon eggs, forming an Apothicon Rift in Buried? Maybe?

[clueless]

1 minute ago, RichKiller said:

We know that the temple in Shang is an Illuminati temple, given the EE stones, the gongs, etc. (to which Richtofen gets telaported by the MPD)
Could be some kind of Apothicon eggs, forming an Apothicon Rift in Buried? Maybe?

Highly doubt it's a true Apothicon Egg that would "hatch" into anything but I do believe it to be of Proto-Keeper Technology used by Apothicons for their own endgoals. Illuminati is an interdimensional organization itself and could easily find more Black Eggs and hoard them if their end goal is truly to break the universal cycle.

[RichKiller]

3 minutes ago, clueless said:

Highly doubt it's a true Apothicon Egg that would "hatch" into anything but I do believe it to be of Proto-Keeper Technology used by Apothicons for their own endgoals. Illuminati is an interdimensional organization itself and could easily find more Black Eggs and hoard them if their end goal is truly to break the universal cycle.

 

Could be an Apothicon Rift. But Richtofen wants to mend it so maybe a Keeper Rift. Just throwing ideas. 

[clueless]

3 minutes ago, RichKiller said:

Could be an Apothicon Rift. But Richtofen wants to mend it so maybe a Keeper Rift. Just throwing ideas. 

I think it's just a Dimensional Rift, allowing other Dimensions to peek into this one. Not Apothicon or Keeper by nature, just caused from so much 115 reacting at once tearing a giant hole in space-time. Richtofen wants it closed to stop other entities from entering this Dimension, the same way Monty's Perfect World was untouchable by the Apothicons unless someone opened it from the inside.

 

[anonymous]

Regarding our idea that the rockets itself didn't blew up Earth, but the Black Eggs that were transported within came in contact with the three largest 115 deposits on Earth (Groom Lake, Tunguska, Angola/Purgatory Point). This was done intentionally by our pal Maxis to sever Aethereal Richthofen's connection with Earth, as the physical 115 bridges our world with the Aether. Now why would the explosion of these three 115 deposits have the destruction of Earth as a consequence? I think this might be the point where the theory that Earth's Core = (partly) 115 comes into play: the effect of the Black Eggs could have set up a chainreaction that went all the way underground to the single largest 115 deposit: the Core. As Agartha (Hollow Earth, the Underworld) was always said to be accesible via our Core, it would make sense this was Richtofen's major link with Earth. Therefore, it may be that Maxis' goal to sever the connection was destroying Earth's core via destroying the three major 115 deposits on the surface. Poor Black Egg

 

If we take this further, we know the House is in Agartha. The actions of the testsubjects led to a horrible radioactive scortch, which I assume is this destruction of Earth. But remember, the entire core was blown up (and in simple words, core=Agartha). So are the events of the House truly the direct consequence of the destruction of Earth's Core?

[RadZakpak]

I want to add that I think Tag der Toten's Golden Pack-a-Punch machine may also be a Vril Artifact, and in fact, it is able "Vril-ify" normal metal.

 

 

I assumed for a while the Golden PaP was just a gameplay thing, just PaP with a golden coat of paint. But thinking on the fact that placing the assembled components of the Agarthan Device into the Golden PaP is what finally begins the process in activating the device, I think there's probably something more to it. We know Jeb Brown was just a normal blacksmith, and when the angels asked him to create the Agarthan Device, the only component he could create was the Vril Vessel. But surely it must be more than just normal metal, otherwise anyone could make it, right? I'm thinking this Golden PaP was something the angels taught him to create alongside the normal PaP. Instead of imbuing an object with 115, it imbues it with Vril Energy, making it far more powerful. I really wish that it made your weapon gold in-game as that would really hammer home the idea, but it basically makes it the strongest version of itself.

[clueless]

7 hours ago, RadZakpak said:

I want to add that I think Tag der Toten's Golden Pack-a-Punch machine may also be a Vril Artifact, and in fact, it is able "Vril-ify" normal metal.

 

 

I assumed for a while the Golden PaP was just a gameplay thing, just PaP with a golden coat of paint. But thinking on the fact that placing the assembled components of the Agarthan Device into the Golden PaP is what finally begins the process in activating the device, I think there's probably something more to it. We know Jeb Brown was just a normal blacksmith, and when the angels asked him to create the Agarthan Device, the only component he could create was the Vril Vessel. But surely it must be more than just normal metal, otherwise anyone could make it, right? I'm thinking this Golden PaP was something the angels taught him to create alongside the normal PaP. Instead of imbuing an object with 115, it imbues it with Vril Energy, making it far more powerful. I really wish that it made your weapon gold in-game as that would really hammer home the idea, but it basically makes it the strongest version of itself.

 

I like the idea, but the fact that we use normal Pack-a-Punch machines beforehand and the radios from Tag are a major counterpoint. Just packing the Vril Vessel alone with a normal Pack-a-Punch Machine causes it to activate in Purgatory Point, the difference here is there's much more energy that is required. I think Pablo keeps saying the device needs more power, which can tie into the theory of enough 115 in a concentrated point can be used to make Vril. Perhaps the interior of the Vril Vessel can become a theoretical vacuum, which is amplified by the numerous metal "plates" surrounding it.